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> I think that in the same way "Gen Z" (acknowledging that the concept of generations isn't as meaningful as we might want it to be) grew up understanding thin

by usrusr 4y ago

> I think that in the same way "Gen Z" (acknowledging that the concept of generations isn't as meaningful as we might want it to be) grew up understanding things about the internet better than their parents, their children will grow up socialized to use a battery of tools to determine what's real or fictional in an environment of adversarial information. Perhaps youth will turn out to be almost immune, due to the fast pace of language fashions displacing each other in those circles? Which would mean that once they reach twenty they'll be as unprepared as someone from deep in the twentieth century... But then on the other hand, picking up specific styles and reproducing at will seems to be a strong point of those models and they can process more new content per time unit than any individual ever could. I guess their real defense is already being deployed, that general shift from text to video. If emoji have been the first sign of impeding postalphabetism, what's GPT? In another thread someone mentioned the Butlerian Jihad...

maxbond 4y ago
I dunno, I feel like video and audio generation is coming along as well. And the more people make videos, the larger the available corpus becomes for training. A churn of shibboleths could maybe work, but not everyone would be able to keep up with it. Lots of people struggle to understand social cues and stuff. I can only imagine how exhausting for them it would be if there were a neverending font of social cues, selected for their difficulty to predict and to replicate. I do think shibboleths among small groups will be important, similar to how characters in Harry Potter use code phrases to mitigate the threat of polyjuice potion (which allows you to impersonate someone else's voice & likeness) to combat generative AIs used to impersonate someone over, say, a video call. Man, Dune really gets crazy in the later novels. I only read the first. Had no idea there's a rebellion against the singularity.
- YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
  We already have a "neverending font of social cues, selected for their difficulty to predict and replicate". There's so much dogwhistle signalling and euphemism treadmilling going on in modern Internet discourse whose primary purpose just seems to be to enable people to identify $OTHER_TRIBE and signal that they're part of $TRIBE.

by usrusr 4y ago

maxbond 4y ago

I dunno, I feel like video and audio generation is coming along as well. And the more people make videos, the larger the available corpus becomes for training. A churn of shibboleths could maybe work, but not everyone would be able to keep up with it. Lots of people struggle to understand social cues and stuff. I can only imagine how exhausting for them it would be if there were a neverending font of social cues, selected for their difficulty to predict and to replicate. I do think shibboleths among small groups will be important, similar to how characters in Harry Potter use code phrases to mitigate the threat of polyjuice potion (which allows you to impersonate someone else's voice & likeness) to combat generative AIs used to impersonate someone over, say, a video call. Man, Dune really gets crazy in the later novels. I only read the first. Had no idea there's a rebellion against the singularity.

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
We already have a "neverending font of social cues, selected for their difficulty to predict and replicate". There's so much dogwhistle signalling and euphemism treadmilling going on in modern Internet discourse whose primary purpose just seems to be to enable people to identify $OTHER_TRIBE and signal that they're part of $TRIBE.