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> You tie yourself down to monogamy, give up your personal life... This is a ridiculously one side POV. I don't see marriage as giving up personal life. I see

by gernb 4y ago

> You tie yourself down to monogamy, give up your personal life... This is a ridiculously one side POV. I don't see marriage as giving up personal life. I see it as starting a personal live. There are so many things in my life I wanted to do "with someone" and by someone I mean someone I was in love with and who was in love with me. I see couples traveling the world, working abroad, supporting each other, having twice as many friends since both side bring in people, having twice as many activities to choose from ("should we go to party A or party B?") etc... On top of that playing with kids is awesome fun. Maybe your experience has been having a partner who's not a fit for you and so you wanted out?

notRobot 4y ago
You can be a long-term committed couple without being married on paper. You can do all the things you mention. What's more, you can also have kids without being married on paper! So I do understand people who don't see the point of getting the government involved and making it a thing that's very complicated to end if it doesn't work out.
- xboxnolifes 4y ago
  While true, this is irrelevant to the topic of birth rates.
  - notRobot 4y ago
    So is the comment I was replying to.
- astrange 4y ago
  That gets you all kind of problems with the legal system if one if you is in the hospital or dies.
irjustin 4y ago
> This is a ridiculously one side POV. I don't see marriage as giving up personal life. I see it as starting a personal live. There is some truth to this though. It's just you personally don't see it that way. A number of my single friends, 35+, love their life - exactly the way it is. They want a relationship but not bad enough to give up specific aspects that are called 'freedoms'. One of them being able to hook up and many others. I'm married with children and wouldn't want it any other way, but that's me. My personal take, yes please do not get married if you don't want to.

by gernb 4y ago

notRobot 4y ago

You can be a long-term committed couple without being married on paper. You can do all the things you mention. What's more, you can also have kids without being married on paper! So I do understand people who don't see the point of getting the government involved and making it a thing that's very complicated to end if it doesn't work out.

xboxnolifes 4y ago
While true, this is irrelevant to the topic of birth rates.
- notRobot 4y ago
  So is the comment I was replying to.
astrange 4y ago
That gets you all kind of problems with the legal system if one if you is in the hospital or dies.

irjustin 4y ago

> This is a ridiculously one side POV. I don't see marriage as giving up personal life. I see it as starting a personal live. There is some truth to this though. It's just you personally don't see it that way. A number of my single friends, 35+, love their life - exactly the way it is. They want a relationship but not bad enough to give up specific aspects that are called 'freedoms'. One of them being able to hook up and many others. I'm married with children and wouldn't want it any other way, but that's me. My personal take, yes please do not get married if you don't want to.