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There's not a lot of context here, but I have to wonder: why not just get a good primary care doctor and a therapist? Their advice and coaching will be foundati

by _eukj 4y ago

There's not a lot of context here, but I have to wonder: why not just get a good primary care doctor and a therapist? Their advice and coaching will be foundational rather than superficial. Good physical and mental health along with emotional control and self-confidence will lay a strong foundation. Then get a trainer. And then once all that's going, just get a stylist and maybe an interior designer to top it off.

bradlys 4y ago
> why not just get a good primary care doctor and a therapist? There advice and coaching will be foundational rather than superficial. Good physical and mental health along with emotional control and self-confidence will lay a strong foundation. I've had these and they were more or less okay but they're just baseline things anyone should consider. Unless you've got a very niche (and definitely out of network) therapist, they're not going to really do anything to achieve any professional goals. Personal goals is a toss up. If you have some serious personal hangups - they can sometimes help. But, therapy isn't a panacea. It doesn't always work - regardless of how much we try to act like it will cure cancer if you just have a positive attitude. A trainer is also worthless unless you know what you're training for. Are you training for a marathon? Power lifting? Tennis? Body building? An image consultant is more holistic. There's enough context for people in the know about this.
- _eukj 4y ago
  > A trainer is also worthless unless you know what you're training for. Are you training for a marathon? Power lifting? Tennis? Body building? What are you training for? Why do you need someone to tell you that? It sounds like you're looking for someone to tell you who you should be, when that person is you. > An image consultant is more holistic. I highly doubt that an image consultant is more holistic. The very name implies that they address superficial things rather than foundational things, trying to turn you into something you're not. A good primary care doctor and therapist can help you become the best version of who you are, minimizing the unhealthy parts of your personality and maximizing the healthy parts. There's quite a bit of research out there that shows it's basically impossible to change your underlying dominant personality types. > There's enough context for people in the know about this. I guess. That's a weird thing to say, especially since you're here asking, so good luck then. Just trying to provide what I think is a more realistic perspective, as not everyone is caught up in the Bay area's aura.
  - bradlys 4y ago
    I think you're talking to a brickwall at this point because I don't think you're that familiar with what a lot of image consultants actually do. As I said - it's a niche thing. I've rarely seen anyone but celebrities and execs do it. So I get your misunderstanding.
    - _eukj 4y ago
      Maybe so, but I sort of get the feeling that I do get what an image consultant does, unless you have some more context of what you're looking for or what image consultants do. It's just that my opinion differs. I would also wager that an image consultant's services would be more and maybe even actually effective if laid upon the foundation of physical and emotional health I and others here are mentioning. I mean, you're the one here asking about it, but all your answers imply that you already have the answers. If I'm not talking to a brick wall, I do at least recommend taking the RHETI test from The Enneagram Institute, if you haven't already. It will help provide an approximate snapshot of who you are already, and maybe you can get some insight from it. https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ A good therapist will help you identify when your personality is unhealthy or healthy and how to adjust appropriately. Such understanding can really enable nearly everything else.
      - AnnoyedComment 4y ago
      - qazxcvbnmlp 4y ago
        It’s probably a frustrating response. OP asked for help with one thing, and then commenters were like work on physical and mental health. And OP is like yeah-cool but that’s not the problem I asked for help with. That being said, I 100% agree with _eukj in this context. Mental health very underrated and important.
        bradlys 4y ago
        Glad you get it. Really could not give any less shits about the mental advice. It is a waste of time for everyone involved to be concerned about that here. I only need help with the image.
- xhevahir 4y ago
  > But, therapy isn't a panacea. It doesn't always work - regardless of how much we try to act like it will cure cancer if you just have a positive attitude. Therapy is not about urging a person to be relentlessly cheerful, for what it's worth.
- luckman212 4y ago
  Along with the hair & makeup, you might want to give your HN profile tagline a makeover too... > Just another fool trying to get their payday in the bay area

by _eukj 4y ago

bradlys 4y ago

> why not just get a good primary care doctor and a therapist? There advice and coaching will be foundational rather than superficial. Good physical and mental health along with emotional control and self-confidence will lay a strong foundation. I've had these and they were more or less okay but they're just baseline things anyone should consider. Unless you've got a very niche (and definitely out of network) therapist, they're not going to really do anything to achieve any professional goals. Personal goals is a toss up. If you have some serious personal hangups - they can sometimes help. But, therapy isn't a panacea. It doesn't always work - regardless of how much we try to act like it will cure cancer if you just have a positive attitude. A trainer is also worthless unless you know what you're training for. Are you training for a marathon? Power lifting? Tennis? Body building? An image consultant is more holistic. There's enough context for people in the know about this.

_eukj 4y ago
> A trainer is also worthless unless you know what you're training for. Are you training for a marathon? Power lifting? Tennis? Body building? What are you training for? Why do you need someone to tell you that? It sounds like you're looking for someone to tell you who you should be, when that person is you. > An image consultant is more holistic. I highly doubt that an image consultant is more holistic. The very name implies that they address superficial things rather than foundational things, trying to turn you into something you're not. A good primary care doctor and therapist can help you become the best version of who you are, minimizing the unhealthy parts of your personality and maximizing the healthy parts. There's quite a bit of research out there that shows it's basically impossible to change your underlying dominant personality types. > There's enough context for people in the know about this. I guess. That's a weird thing to say, especially since you're here asking, so good luck then. Just trying to provide what I think is a more realistic perspective, as not everyone is caught up in the Bay area's aura.
- bradlys 4y ago
  I think you're talking to a brickwall at this point because I don't think you're that familiar with what a lot of image consultants actually do. As I said - it's a niche thing. I've rarely seen anyone but celebrities and execs do it. So I get your misunderstanding.
  - _eukj 4y ago
    Maybe so, but I sort of get the feeling that I do get what an image consultant does, unless you have some more context of what you're looking for or what image consultants do. It's just that my opinion differs. I would also wager that an image consultant's services would be more and maybe even actually effective if laid upon the foundation of physical and emotional health I and others here are mentioning. I mean, you're the one here asking about it, but all your answers imply that you already have the answers. If I'm not talking to a brick wall, I do at least recommend taking the RHETI test from The Enneagram Institute, if you haven't already. It will help provide an approximate snapshot of who you are already, and maybe you can get some insight from it. https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ A good therapist will help you identify when your personality is unhealthy or healthy and how to adjust appropriately. Such understanding can really enable nearly everything else.
    - AnnoyedComment 4y ago
    - qazxcvbnmlp 4y ago
      It’s probably a frustrating response. OP asked for help with one thing, and then commenters were like work on physical and mental health. And OP is like yeah-cool but that’s not the problem I asked for help with. That being said, I 100% agree with _eukj in this context. Mental health very underrated and important.
      - bradlys 4y ago
        Glad you get it. Really could not give any less shits about the mental advice. It is a waste of time for everyone involved to be concerned about that here. I only need help with the image.
xhevahir 4y ago
> But, therapy isn't a panacea. It doesn't always work - regardless of how much we try to act like it will cure cancer if you just have a positive attitude. Therapy is not about urging a person to be relentlessly cheerful, for what it's worth.
luckman212 4y ago
Along with the hair & makeup, you might want to give your HN profile tagline a makeover too... > Just another fool trying to get their payday in the bay area