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This website does not have any information about owners or legal entity behind it. Who is running this? What is their physical address? Where are they registere

by tlogan 4y ago

This website does not have any information about owners or legal entity behind it. Who is running this? What is their physical address? Where are they registered? Honest question: how do I know and verify they really care about privacy and they are not one doing shady things? This is really honest question. How can anybody trust that company x care about privacy without even know anything about company x?

jchw 4y ago
When it comes to SaaSes, absolutely nothing. It's all social. Even knowing the owners doesn't give you much more assurance that it's legit, unless they're very well known. That said, most liars are really really bad at lying. "We care about your privacy! Now let us load 1000 tracking libraries, kthxbai" is pretty easy to spot. I think the scarier case is when dealing with a government adversary. They're simply not as stupid, and you never know when it could happen: https://archive.ph/rI8mE https://archive.ph/rI8mE For those cases, I get unnerved when things seem too good to be true. If I didn't know former Mullvad employee(s), I'd be deeply concerned about them, too.
- BlueTemplar 4y ago
  Thankfully, most people shouldn't consider "government adversary" high in their "threat assessment".
  - jchw 4y ago
    I think "targeted government adversary" shouldn't be. But government in general? https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-sold-criminals-fake-encrypted-phones-that-actually-copied-their-messages https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-sold-criminals-fake-encrypted... Maybe.
    - BlueTemplar 4y ago
      I mean, "government in general" is kind of meaningless, some governments are much more of a threat to some people than others. Also, while your example is great (and I think I have seen it predicted !), criminal organizations aren't "most" nor "people" (more like businesses ?).
- tlogan 4y ago
  It is not about liar. The owner of the web site is probably nice and all these things. Some social proof (LinkedIn, address etc) is really needed. I always check LinkedIn’s to see where that person worked, what does it do, etc. Not a good test but it is better than nothing. But on the other hand, the owner can be NK. Or what if it gets taken over by NK? Or what if somebody starts claiming that they were running this business and it was hijacked?
yucky 4y ago
> This website does not have any information about owners or legal entity behind it. Yes it does. It's all over their TOS.
- deleted 4y ago
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- tlogan 4y ago
  I searched for Sensor Station LLC. That points to this company: https://www.sensorstation.co/ https://www.sensorstation.co/ This company seems to be making embedded software for sensors. Now I’m concern.
  - trynewideas 4y ago
    It's a digital agency. https://clients.sensorstation.co/ https://clients.sensorstation.co/ > We specialize in custom software projects above and beyond the typical web agency: realtime interactive experiences, high-concurrency backends, and everything in between. Appears to be a husband-and-wife team whose personal projects include tech to support their permaculture lifestyle, but whose portfolio appears to be mostly brand related. Took about five minutes of reading, but I know that's not the point you're trying to make, you just don't want to say Slimvoice is an unprofessionally run service.

by tlogan 4y ago

jchw 4y ago

When it comes to SaaSes, absolutely nothing. It's all social. Even knowing the owners doesn't give you much more assurance that it's legit, unless they're very well known. That said, most liars are really really bad at lying. "We care about your privacy! Now let us load 1000 tracking libraries, kthxbai" is pretty easy to spot. I think the scarier case is when dealing with a government adversary. They're simply not as stupid, and you never know when it could happen: https://archive.ph/rI8mE https://archive.ph/rI8mE For those cases, I get unnerved when things seem too good to be true. If I didn't know former Mullvad employee(s), I'd be deeply concerned about them, too.

BlueTemplar 4y ago
Thankfully, most people shouldn't consider "government adversary" high in their "threat assessment".
- jchw 4y ago
  I think "targeted government adversary" shouldn't be. But government in general? https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-sold-criminals-fake-encrypted-phones-that-actually-copied-their-messages https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-sold-criminals-fake-encrypted... Maybe.
  - BlueTemplar 4y ago
    I mean, "government in general" is kind of meaningless, some governments are much more of a threat to some people than others. Also, while your example is great (and I think I have seen it predicted !), criminal organizations aren't "most" nor "people" (more like businesses ?).
tlogan 4y ago
It is not about liar. The owner of the web site is probably nice and all these things. Some social proof (LinkedIn, address etc) is really needed. I always check LinkedIn’s to see where that person worked, what does it do, etc. Not a good test but it is better than nothing. But on the other hand, the owner can be NK. Or what if it gets taken over by NK? Or what if somebody starts claiming that they were running this business and it was hijacked?

yucky 4y ago

> This website does not have any information about owners or legal entity behind it. Yes it does. It's all over their TOS.

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tlogan 4y ago
I searched for Sensor Station LLC. That points to this company: https://www.sensorstation.co/ https://www.sensorstation.co/ This company seems to be making embedded software for sensors. Now I’m concern.
- trynewideas 4y ago
  It's a digital agency. https://clients.sensorstation.co/ https://clients.sensorstation.co/ > We specialize in custom software projects above and beyond the typical web agency: realtime interactive experiences, high-concurrency backends, and everything in between. Appears to be a husband-and-wife team whose personal projects include tech to support their permaculture lifestyle, but whose portfolio appears to be mostly brand related. Took about five minutes of reading, but I know that's not the point you're trying to make, you just don't want to say Slimvoice is an unprofessionally run service.