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As I said in the other thread: In my experience it’s the right who does these things and the left who drives themselves to an early grave trying to do the righ

As I said in the other thread: In my experience it’s the right who does these things and the left who drives themselves to an early grave trying to do the right thing. But feel free to share anecdotes about your interactions with politicians in the EU or USA. (I’ve seen the sausage made in both contexts.)

sam_lowry_ 4y ago
That particular European Parliament vice-president is from the left ;-)
the_third_wave 4y ago
In my experience it is politicians who do these things, whether from the left or from the right. Those on the right are generally accused by default of this type of behaviour but those on the left are "supposed to be above such machinations" which makes it all the more egregious to see them behave exactly like all others.
- greggarious 4y ago
  In my experience most politicians “just” engage in insider trading, people like this woman should be marched out of there offices at gunpoint. (Preferably by the police, but crowds can do crazy things if instigated, so regardless of whether you think you’ll at best go to some luxury prison it’s best not to test the wisdom of the crowds by robbing them blind) You are pushing nihilism - the number of them with literal bags is small but the effect significant. And to be clear “the left” (which I am a part of) do not consider ourselves above such things - in fact it’s been a consistent barrier to my professional success that I insist local party officials from the township to the Oval Office stay out of politics if they are going to to put the needs of corporations above those of people. Where we differ is economics. I attended a Ron Paul rally in the 2000s like rest of the HN comments section, per his suggestion I read the case for gold and I’ve taken multiple graduate level economics courses. And while I continue to describe myself as a “left libertarian”, humans are irrational actors, there is no invisible hand in the market and insisting so is as damaging to society as insisting there is an invisible man in the sky.

sam_lowry_ 4y ago

That particular European Parliament vice-president is from the left ;-)

the_third_wave 4y ago

In my experience it is politicians who do these things, whether from the left or from the right. Those on the right are generally accused by default of this type of behaviour but those on the left are "supposed to be above such machinations" which makes it all the more egregious to see them behave exactly like all others.

greggarious 4y ago
In my experience most politicians “just” engage in insider trading, people like this woman should be marched out of there offices at gunpoint. (Preferably by the police, but crowds can do crazy things if instigated, so regardless of whether you think you’ll at best go to some luxury prison it’s best not to test the wisdom of the crowds by robbing them blind) You are pushing nihilism - the number of them with literal bags is small but the effect significant. And to be clear “the left” (which I am a part of) do not consider ourselves above such things - in fact it’s been a consistent barrier to my professional success that I insist local party officials from the township to the Oval Office stay out of politics if they are going to to put the needs of corporations above those of people. Where we differ is economics. I attended a Ron Paul rally in the 2000s like rest of the HN comments section, per his suggestion I read the case for gold and I’ve taken multiple graduate level economics courses. And while I continue to describe myself as a “left libertarian”, humans are irrational actors, there is no invisible hand in the market and insisting so is as damaging to society as insisting there is an invisible man in the sky.