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by Shubham28 4y ago
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- MichaelZuo 4y agoLevel 4 means full autonomy over all normal driving conditions. Waymo does not handle complex construction sites like a normal human driver would, a fact verifiable by many thousands of people. It does not have level 4 autonomy. Looks like the article got backlash too because the editor inserted an editor's note in quite large font right in the middle of the article clarifying it.
- amf12 4y ago> Level 4 means full autonomy over all normal driving conditions. Aren't you describing Level 5? From what I see online, Level 4 means "The car can operate without human input or oversight but only under select conditions defined by factors such as road type or geographic area" Waymo has been operating geo-fenced self-driving cars without drivers present. It may not handle complex situations, but that isn't expected out of L4.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoLevel 5 means full autonomy over all known driving conditions. Including dirt roads, etc. Otherwise there would need to be a level 6.
- sangnoir 4y agoWhat's the difference between "all normal driving conditions" (your definition of Level 4) and "all known driving conditions" (your definition of L5)?
- MichaelZuo 4y agoThese are not my definitions, they are the SAE's definitions. As anyone can verify themselves by visiting SAE.org
- amf12 4y agoEven with SAE's definition, Waymo seems to be at L4: https://www.sae.org/blog/sae-j3016-update https://www.sae.org/blog/sae-j3016-update
- MichaelZuo 4y agoIt would only be the case if their claim is solely evaluated within certain limited areas. With the rest of the road network being ignored.
- cameldrv 4y agoLevel 4 means full autonomy within certain predefined conditions. In Cruise's case, this might be, "Only in certain parts of San Francisco at night." This qualifies for Level 4.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoWhat's stopping someone from predefining it to mean "Only within a specific parking lot"? And then claiming they achieved Level 4?
- cameldrv 4y agoNothing. That is the definition of level 4. Level 5 is no restrictions.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoSeems like a silly way of assessing levels of autonomy then. Maybe it doesn't make sense to allow it to be predefined to an arbitrarily small area?