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I had the same exact response and cancelled mine around the time of the tweets about the Pelosi attack he made. It’s a shame, we loved our last Tesla but I can

I had the same exact response and cancelled mine around the time of the tweets about the Pelosi attack he made. It’s a shame, we loved our last Tesla but I can’t stand the thought of being associated with him. We were supposed to pick it up the week he made those tweets. I was his former prime target demographic. I feel very strongly about protecting the environment, I hate gasoline engines after working on them most of my life, I loved how economical it was to drive an electric car, I love technology, and I could afford a Tesla. I don’t know what his new demographic is but I don’t think they even can buy a Tesla or will. I wish him lots of luck. Based on my experiences in a small town, his new demographic buys dually trucks listening to alt right propaganda and lives check to check working in the oilfield. Or is on a very fixed income and is retired and stays at home afraid, watching Fox News, with their last car in the driveway, a 1997 Oldsmobile or Buick.

nerdix 4y ago
From what I've seen there are quite a lot of Tesla drivers in major southern suburbs. Southern suburbs tend to be fairly conservative. Maybe not quite as Trump loving as rural areas. But conservative nonetheless and likely not turned off by Elon's recent emergence as a right wing political figure. Also, if you read enough /r/elonmusk you'll see that a lot of people have bought into Elon's schtick that he's actually just a centrist (apparently centrists love DeSantis)
- fundad 4y ago
  Yeah, Emissions reductions will come from lighter cars, not steel cars weighed down with enough battery for ludicrous mode. Also emissions reductions doesn’t come from selling more private vehicles.
- treeman79 4y ago
  There is a heavy mix of liberal and conservatives in the south. Classic big city vs everyone else dynamic. Had a group of BLM protestors positing live on twitter how they where coming up to where I live to burn down neighborhoods. I’m surrounded by gun fanatics. If police hadn’t blocked mass transit and highways it would have been a blood bath.
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jdminhbg 4y ago
> I had the same exact response and cancelled mine around the time of the tweets about the Pelosi attack he made. Sorry to be so blunt, but I find this level of online political attachment to be completely deranged. Either it's a good car or not.
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- fundad 4y ago
  I think another post alluded to this but if Tesla gets in trouble the cars will likely be bricked right? If the viability of the company relies on the hype machine then it’s pretty relevant what kj d of person is “renting” me the car
  - jdminhbg 4y ago
    > I think another post alluded to this but if Tesla gets in trouble the cars will likely be bricked right? I strongly doubt millions of cars will be left bricked to be towed to the junkyard.
    - fundad 4y ago
      I have strong doubt too. But the track record of accountability from our institutions means the difference between strong doubt and complete doubt. That eSilverado tho
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      If they can do that to IoT devices, well…
  - rainbowzootsuit 4y ago
    I've not studied this specifically but I do have a general interest in the complex control systems now in cars —and I try to avoid them. I think that, from watching the likes or Rich Rebuilds, who ostensibly operates without any approval from tesla, the cars will run without the internet but I guess they'd become "feature complete" and when modules die it will be on the car hacking community to pick up the mantle. Traditional cars aren't in a much better position as somewhat superfluous modules (think a radio head unit) can take down one of the many CANbus networks in your car and leave it a brick. Many (most?) auto techs are not well versed identifying these types of low level problems and will fall back to firing the parts cannon at the car rather than identifying the issue definitively. Just like in Battleship you can get a hit by random guessing but this is a waste of money and resources. The random superfluous modules also become unavailable and if they're critical to making the car start then your car might be out of commission for the foreseeable future. GM and Ford just don't have as much of a social media halo around them. You do see a few headlines around particularly egregious money digs, like one company making remote start a subscription feature. That module and the car it's in is not built to last in my view.

nerdix 4y ago

From what I've seen there are quite a lot of Tesla drivers in major southern suburbs. Southern suburbs tend to be fairly conservative. Maybe not quite as Trump loving as rural areas. But conservative nonetheless and likely not turned off by Elon's recent emergence as a right wing political figure. Also, if you read enough /r/elonmusk you'll see that a lot of people have bought into Elon's schtick that he's actually just a centrist (apparently centrists love DeSantis)

fundad 4y ago
Yeah, Emissions reductions will come from lighter cars, not steel cars weighed down with enough battery for ludicrous mode. Also emissions reductions doesn’t come from selling more private vehicles.
treeman79 4y ago
There is a heavy mix of liberal and conservatives in the south. Classic big city vs everyone else dynamic. Had a group of BLM protestors positing live on twitter how they where coming up to where I live to burn down neighborhoods. I’m surrounded by gun fanatics. If police hadn’t blocked mass transit and highways it would have been a blood bath.
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jdminhbg 4y ago

> I had the same exact response and cancelled mine around the time of the tweets about the Pelosi attack he made. Sorry to be so blunt, but I find this level of online political attachment to be completely deranged. Either it's a good car or not.

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fundad 4y ago
I think another post alluded to this but if Tesla gets in trouble the cars will likely be bricked right? If the viability of the company relies on the hype machine then it’s pretty relevant what kj d of person is “renting” me the car
- jdminhbg 4y ago
  > I think another post alluded to this but if Tesla gets in trouble the cars will likely be bricked right? I strongly doubt millions of cars will be left bricked to be towed to the junkyard.
  - fundad 4y ago
    I have strong doubt too. But the track record of accountability from our institutions means the difference between strong doubt and complete doubt. That eSilverado tho
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    If they can do that to IoT devices, well…
- rainbowzootsuit 4y ago
  I've not studied this specifically but I do have a general interest in the complex control systems now in cars —and I try to avoid them. I think that, from watching the likes or Rich Rebuilds, who ostensibly operates without any approval from tesla, the cars will run without the internet but I guess they'd become "feature complete" and when modules die it will be on the car hacking community to pick up the mantle. Traditional cars aren't in a much better position as somewhat superfluous modules (think a radio head unit) can take down one of the many CANbus networks in your car and leave it a brick. Many (most?) auto techs are not well versed identifying these types of low level problems and will fall back to firing the parts cannon at the car rather than identifying the issue definitively. Just like in Battleship you can get a hit by random guessing but this is a waste of money and resources. The random superfluous modules also become unavailable and if they're critical to making the car start then your car might be out of commission for the foreseeable future. GM and Ford just don't have as much of a social media halo around them. You do see a few headlines around particularly egregious money digs, like one company making remote start a subscription feature. That module and the car it's in is not built to last in my view.