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It just happened, probably too early to come to any conclusions. I think the concern is that Wahl seems to have been a generally healthy person (although recen

It just happened, probably too early to come to any conclusions. I think the concern is that Wahl seems to have been a generally healthy person (although recently been feeling sick, according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33931689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33931689), wrote a critical article about a famously hard government, received a bunch of death threats and the day after drops dead. Again, too early to reach any conclusions, I guess we'll have to wait for a proper autopsy before reading too much into it.

411111111111111 4y ago
there will never be any irrefuteable proof of any wrongdoing wherever it was murder or not. an autopsy report done by them would be as untrustworthy and pointless as you can get and handing over the body would be just as pointless. The regimes publicly kill people which critique even abroads and continue to bribe anyone thats willing to take their money and can give them something they wish. None of the news can be taken seriously one way or another in a trustless society which we've long since become. While its possible that his death was a coincidence, the fact that remains is that there is a pattern of deaths whenever a person voiced critiques against these dictators.
- jackmott42 4y ago
  Try not to end up psychologically in a place where nothing is real, because then also everything is real. It is this attitude that was fostered among the Russian population that allows Putin to senselessly send them to slaughter to Ukraine. This attitude is being fostered in America too. I hope it doesn't get that bad. I worry it will.
  - boppo1 4y ago
    It already is.
stonepresto 4y ago
I mean the Saudi prince got away with chopping a journalist up, so why can't Qatar get away with some light poisoning?
jackmott42 4y ago
Sometimes I worry the world will end because nice people are so accommodating and understanding of evil.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Sometimes I worry the world will end because people are too quick to jump to conclusions just because it happens to match their worldviews. Don't get me wrong, I worry about what you said too, but around me in life, jumping to conclusions and sticking with it regardless is much more common than what you mentioned.
  - plaguepilled 4y ago
    This comment, in addition to needlessly escalating, is equivalent to "I am bothered by people being bothered by the things they believe". Worldviews affect what upsets people. Like, duh?
    - yucky 4y ago
      That analogy doesn't work since he was simply pointing out claims of a conspiracy are baseless. The guy had been sick for a week, complaining of tightness in his chest etc. Others are claiming with just as much evidence (i.e. none) that he died due to his recent Covid boosters. Anybody that jumps to a conclusion that there is some conspiracy behind it, is being silly. Otherwise, we can just believe anything about anything, right?
- gillesjacobs 4y ago
  "We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." — (probably not) Alexander Solzhenitsyn
coding123 4y ago
He had non covid coughing diagnosed as bronchitis a couple days before
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  Yeah, that doesn’t say anything. Iff it was poisoning, it’s like saying somebody who died from blood loss after a gun wound died from iron deficiency.
lzaaz 4y ago
Another one for the pile of "died suddenly"
selectodude 4y ago
He was receiving death threats for the rainbow shirts he was wearing too. "Eric Wahl said his brother had received death threats while in Qatar because of the rainbow shirt and his continued reporting on FIFA and the Qatari government." His brother is on Twitter saying that he did not die of natural causes. https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601373769326792705 https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601373769326792705
- yucky 4y ago
  What is he basing that on?

411111111111111 4y ago

there will never be any irrefuteable proof of any wrongdoing wherever it was murder or not. an autopsy report done by them would be as untrustworthy and pointless as you can get and handing over the body would be just as pointless. The regimes publicly kill people which critique even abroads and continue to bribe anyone thats willing to take their money and can give them something they wish. None of the news can be taken seriously one way or another in a trustless society which we've long since become. While its possible that his death was a coincidence, the fact that remains is that there is a pattern of deaths whenever a person voiced critiques against these dictators.

jackmott42 4y ago
Try not to end up psychologically in a place where nothing is real, because then also everything is real. It is this attitude that was fostered among the Russian population that allows Putin to senselessly send them to slaughter to Ukraine. This attitude is being fostered in America too. I hope it doesn't get that bad. I worry it will.
- boppo1 4y ago
  It already is.

stonepresto 4y ago

I mean the Saudi prince got away with chopping a journalist up, so why can't Qatar get away with some light poisoning?

jackmott42 4y ago

Sometimes I worry the world will end because nice people are so accommodating and understanding of evil.

capableweb 4y ago
Sometimes I worry the world will end because people are too quick to jump to conclusions just because it happens to match their worldviews. Don't get me wrong, I worry about what you said too, but around me in life, jumping to conclusions and sticking with it regardless is much more common than what you mentioned.
- plaguepilled 4y ago
  This comment, in addition to needlessly escalating, is equivalent to "I am bothered by people being bothered by the things they believe". Worldviews affect what upsets people. Like, duh?
  - yucky 4y ago
    That analogy doesn't work since he was simply pointing out claims of a conspiracy are baseless. The guy had been sick for a week, complaining of tightness in his chest etc. Others are claiming with just as much evidence (i.e. none) that he died due to his recent Covid boosters. Anybody that jumps to a conclusion that there is some conspiracy behind it, is being silly. Otherwise, we can just believe anything about anything, right?
gillesjacobs 4y ago
"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." — (probably not) Alexander Solzhenitsyn

coding123 4y ago

He had non covid coughing diagnosed as bronchitis a couple days before

actionfromafar 4y ago
Yeah, that doesn’t say anything. Iff it was poisoning, it’s like saying somebody who died from blood loss after a gun wound died from iron deficiency.

lzaaz 4y ago

Another one for the pile of "died suddenly"

selectodude 4y ago

He was receiving death threats for the rainbow shirts he was wearing too. "Eric Wahl said his brother had received death threats while in Qatar because of the rainbow shirt and his continued reporting on FIFA and the Qatari government." His brother is on Twitter saying that he did not die of natural causes. https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601373769326792705 https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601373769326792705

yucky 4y ago
What is he basing that on?