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‘You cannot allow staff to choose their working conditions’

16 points by BerislavLopac 4y ago

BerislavLopac 4y ago
https://archive.vn/G2nne https://archive.vn/G2nne
Macha 4y ago
says an owner of a manufacturing business, and some but not all of the business owners surveyed, neither the pro or against side having cited more than their gut feelings.
- eatonphil 4y ago
  Does Dyson even manufacture in the UK today? A quick Google search suggests they moved it to Southeast Asia 20 years ago.
jleyank 4y ago
Long before covid and wfh, Dyson moved its manufacturing to low cost countries in Asia. This was driven by profit, of course. Thus anything’s Dyson says about uk conditions is irrelevant unless he’s talking about money managers or other finance types. Yeah, if you’re going to run a plant it makes sense to have people working in said plant. If, however, you’re creating non physical items such as software, why does it matter where the people work? It’s possible the design stage profits from contact but that a small group performing a limited task. There are sufficient tools to develop in any possible topology so “getting the best group” or “getting the cheapest group” can be pursued. And there’s good reason to develop a distributed system in a distributed way, eating one’s own dog food as it were.
mmarq 4y ago
TL;DR Dyson, the guy who thought that forcing me to fill 40 pages of paperwork to live in the UK, complaints about efficiency and paperwork and doesn’t want me to work from home, after moving his business somewhere in east Asia. A guy that owns lots of pubs, doesn’t like paying his employees properly and wanted them to be deported from the UK agrees with him. Some people that own offices in central London agree as well.
beardyw 4y ago
Well known businessman Ebenezer Scrooge commented "well heated workplaces are a luxury we can't afford in these Dickensian times."
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rdtwo 4y ago
9/10 slave owners agree slaves should remain slaves or profit could be endangered

16 points by BerislavLopac 4y ago

https://archive.vn/G2nne https://archive.vn/G2nne

says an owner of a manufacturing business, and some but not all of the business owners surveyed, neither the pro or against side having cited more than their gut feelings.

eatonphil 4y ago
Does Dyson even manufacture in the UK today? A quick Google search suggests they moved it to Southeast Asia 20 years ago.

jleyank 4y ago

Long before covid and wfh, Dyson moved its manufacturing to low cost countries in Asia. This was driven by profit, of course. Thus anything’s Dyson says about uk conditions is irrelevant unless he’s talking about money managers or other finance types. Yeah, if you’re going to run a plant it makes sense to have people working in said plant. If, however, you’re creating non physical items such as software, why does it matter where the people work? It’s possible the design stage profits from contact but that a small group performing a limited task. There are sufficient tools to develop in any possible topology so “getting the best group” or “getting the cheapest group” can be pursued. And there’s good reason to develop a distributed system in a distributed way, eating one’s own dog food as it were.

mmarq 4y ago

TL;DR Dyson, the guy who thought that forcing me to fill 40 pages of paperwork to live in the UK, complaints about efficiency and paperwork and doesn’t want me to work from home, after moving his business somewhere in east Asia. A guy that owns lots of pubs, doesn’t like paying his employees properly and wanted them to be deported from the UK agrees with him. Some people that own offices in central London agree as well.

beardyw 4y ago

Well known businessman Ebenezer Scrooge commented "well heated workplaces are a luxury we can't afford in these Dickensian times."

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rdtwo 4y ago

9/10 slave owners agree slaves should remain slaves or profit could be endangered