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Why should anyone have to prove what’s in their pocket is theirs? Why not have police question people for wearing shoes that are a little too nice or seize expe

by pigsty 4y ago

Why should anyone have to prove what’s in their pocket is theirs? Why not have police question people for wearing shoes that are a little too nice or seize expensive watches?

kvdveer 4y ago
Police actually does that here NL). If you declare hardly any income or posessions on your tax report, yet you drive some very expensive car, you may expect a visit from some fraud investigation unit. This has proven very effective against organised crime.
- zxcvbn4038 4y ago
  They must be front line street thugs or something - any wise guy worth his weight is going to declare enough income to keep the tax authorities off his back. The rest goes into a safety deposit box someplace distant, or gets commingled into a business someplace. Escobar owned a cab company which he claimed was the source of his income - he even had a couple guys who would drive around picking up and dropping off passengers. In modern drug cartels everyone is a lottery winner - they will pay people full value to sign over lottery winnings to them just so they can report it as their source of income.
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tgv 4y ago
Crime. Not that difficult, is it?
- jeltz 4y ago
  Yeah, I am a bit worried that we may be too harsh but these laws combat real issues in our society.
  - wizeman 4y ago
    > Yeah, I am a bit worried that we may be too harsh but these laws combat real issues in our society. Well, there are many other ways to combat these issues without treating innocent citizens as criminals unless they prove they are innocent. Believe me, I've been on the receiving end of these laws despite never having done anything illegal, which means that my financial privacy has now been ruined several times and as a consequence, my security and safety and that of my family is now at risk, forever.
- pigsty 4y ago
  I literally have the equivalent of $1500 in my wallet right now. Why? Because I withdrew it and might end up buying something with it, either in one big purchase or ration it throughout the month. Any country that considers that a crime or potentially a crime is dystopian. It’s insane that people think what was the typical way to pay for things a few years ago (and still is in the free world) is some vile action worthy of suspicion.
  - wizeman 4y ago
    > I literally have the equivalent of $1500 in my wallet right now. > Any country that considers that a crime or potentially a crime is dystopian. Then Spain and Greece meet your definition of being dystopian, as their cash payment limits are 1,000 EUR and 500 EUR respectively. And I agree with you.
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wizeman 4y ago
> Why not have police question people for wearing shoes that are a little too nice or seize expensive watches? Please, don't give them more ideas.
jeltz 4y ago
To fight organized crime by making life harder for career criminals. And yes they can and do question things which are not cash, especially expensive cars.

by pigsty 4y ago

Why should anyone have to prove what’s in their pocket is theirs? Why not have police question people for wearing shoes that are a little too nice or seize expensive watches?

kvdveer 4y ago

Police actually does that here NL). If you declare hardly any income or posessions on your tax report, yet you drive some very expensive car, you may expect a visit from some fraud investigation unit. This has proven very effective against organised crime.

zxcvbn4038 4y ago
They must be front line street thugs or something - any wise guy worth his weight is going to declare enough income to keep the tax authorities off his back. The rest goes into a safety deposit box someplace distant, or gets commingled into a business someplace. Escobar owned a cab company which he claimed was the source of his income - he even had a couple guys who would drive around picking up and dropping off passengers. In modern drug cartels everyone is a lottery winner - they will pay people full value to sign over lottery winnings to them just so they can report it as their source of income.
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tgv 4y ago

Crime. Not that difficult, is it?

jeltz 4y ago
Yeah, I am a bit worried that we may be too harsh but these laws combat real issues in our society.
- wizeman 4y ago
  > Yeah, I am a bit worried that we may be too harsh but these laws combat real issues in our society. Well, there are many other ways to combat these issues without treating innocent citizens as criminals unless they prove they are innocent. Believe me, I've been on the receiving end of these laws despite never having done anything illegal, which means that my financial privacy has now been ruined several times and as a consequence, my security and safety and that of my family is now at risk, forever.
pigsty 4y ago
I literally have the equivalent of $1500 in my wallet right now. Why? Because I withdrew it and might end up buying something with it, either in one big purchase or ration it throughout the month. Any country that considers that a crime or potentially a crime is dystopian. It’s insane that people think what was the typical way to pay for things a few years ago (and still is in the free world) is some vile action worthy of suspicion.
- wizeman 4y ago
  > I literally have the equivalent of $1500 in my wallet right now. > Any country that considers that a crime or potentially a crime is dystopian. Then Spain and Greece meet your definition of being dystopian, as their cash payment limits are 1,000 EUR and 500 EUR respectively. And I agree with you.
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wizeman 4y ago

> Why not have police question people for wearing shoes that are a little too nice or seize expensive watches? Please, don't give them more ideas.

jeltz 4y ago

To fight organized crime by making life harder for career criminals. And yes they can and do question things which are not cash, especially expensive cars.