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Interesting to read about this on the same day I read an article about Google's infamously challenging interview process. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001

Interesting to read about this on the same day I read an article about Google's infamously challenging interview process. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204552304577112522982505222.html?mod=googlenews_wsj http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020455230457711...) Clearly something doesn't add up (though it could be as simple as the non-engineers don't get as much scrutiny. Shouldn't Google want the world's best sales reps too?)

taf2 15y ago
It takes one to I know one... Google was founded by phd's not sales people- it is. Very different to hire and manage a sales force compared to an engineering team... Sales people tend to be less honest and often comeback to bit - look at groupon
a1k0n 15y ago
My Google interview wasn't anything like that. If anything, those could be questions they ask non-engineers, but I don't actually know.
- jrockway 15y ago
  They also don't type on computers during interviews, which I doubt is something specific to engineering. My interviewers took notes, copied down what I wrote on the whiteboard, and then (apparently) later entered all of this into the computer system. As for the questions, they certainly don't ask any that are in the article. Steve Yegge's article covers the exact category of questions they ask: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-google.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-goog... I don't remember the exact questions I was asked, and signed about 80 pieces of paper saying I would Never Speak Of Them, but they are of the style where you must know X and then use pieces of X to solve completely unrelated problems. (X could be, for example, quicksort.) Graphs, algorithms, and data structures are essential, but nobody is going to ask you "implement a binary tree"; that is way too easy to study for. (I'm guessing that discrete math questions are also common; but because of the position I was interviewing for, they replaced those with testing and refactoring questsions. Which was good, because I was never good at discrete math.) I had not seen any of the questions they asked before, and two of them were interesting enough to keep me thinking about them for several days. (I was disappointed to discover, while implementing my solution to one, how easy it is to brute-force problems involving English words. There just aren't very many words. But the idea is what counts, and brute-force is not going to get you hired :) Since I've been hired by Google, people have pointed me at a lot of "popular media" articles or videos about Google, and not many have matched my experience, but then again, I haven't actually started work yet. (The linked article also talks about Bank of America intervewing, which doesn't have a standardized process. I know because I worked there and asked different questions, 100% chosen by me, every time I interviewed someone. So while one person at Bank of America may have asked "What animal are you?", that's not some sort of company policy. So it's a bit disingenuous of the article to name-drop Bank of America there.)
  - esrauch 15y ago
    > They also don't type on computers during interviews One of my engineering interviewers took notes on a computer instead of on paper. Clearly your mileage may vary.
groby_b 15y ago
Uh, what? That's certainly not a typical interview for Google. Check what an ex-Googler has to say on the brain teaser questions: http://www.technologywoman.com/2010/05/17/debunking-the-google-interview-myth/ http://www.technologywoman.com/2010/05/17/debunking-the-goog...
- gsivil 15y ago
  Can somebody please give the rationale behind banning the brain teasers?
  - groby_b 15y ago
    I would imagine it's because brain teasers test mostly one thing: If you've heard the brain teaser before. (Or, alternatively, how much of a smart aleck you can be. "Why are manhole covers round?" - "Because manholes are round. If they were square, they wouldn't fit")
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taf2 15y ago

It takes one to I know one... Google was founded by phd's not sales people- it is. Very different to hire and manage a sales force compared to an engineering team... Sales people tend to be less honest and often comeback to bit - look at groupon

a1k0n 15y ago

My Google interview wasn't anything like that. If anything, those could be questions they ask non-engineers, but I don't actually know.

jrockway 15y ago
They also don't type on computers during interviews, which I doubt is something specific to engineering. My interviewers took notes, copied down what I wrote on the whiteboard, and then (apparently) later entered all of this into the computer system. As for the questions, they certainly don't ask any that are in the article. Steve Yegge's article covers the exact category of questions they ask: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-google.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-goog... I don't remember the exact questions I was asked, and signed about 80 pieces of paper saying I would Never Speak Of Them, but they are of the style where you must know X and then use pieces of X to solve completely unrelated problems. (X could be, for example, quicksort.) Graphs, algorithms, and data structures are essential, but nobody is going to ask you "implement a binary tree"; that is way too easy to study for. (I'm guessing that discrete math questions are also common; but because of the position I was interviewing for, they replaced those with testing and refactoring questsions. Which was good, because I was never good at discrete math.) I had not seen any of the questions they asked before, and two of them were interesting enough to keep me thinking about them for several days. (I was disappointed to discover, while implementing my solution to one, how easy it is to brute-force problems involving English words. There just aren't very many words. But the idea is what counts, and brute-force is not going to get you hired :) Since I've been hired by Google, people have pointed me at a lot of "popular media" articles or videos about Google, and not many have matched my experience, but then again, I haven't actually started work yet. (The linked article also talks about Bank of America intervewing, which doesn't have a standardized process. I know because I worked there and asked different questions, 100% chosen by me, every time I interviewed someone. So while one person at Bank of America may have asked "What animal are you?", that's not some sort of company policy. So it's a bit disingenuous of the article to name-drop Bank of America there.)
- esrauch 15y ago
  > They also don't type on computers during interviews One of my engineering interviewers took notes on a computer instead of on paper. Clearly your mileage may vary.

groby_b 15y ago

Uh, what? That's certainly not a typical interview for Google. Check what an ex-Googler has to say on the brain teaser questions: http://www.technologywoman.com/2010/05/17/debunking-the-google-interview-myth/ http://www.technologywoman.com/2010/05/17/debunking-the-goog...

gsivil 15y ago
Can somebody please give the rationale behind banning the brain teasers?
- groby_b 15y ago
  I would imagine it's because brain teasers test mostly one thing: If you've heard the brain teaser before. (Or, alternatively, how much of a smart aleck you can be. "Why are manhole covers round?" - "Because manholes are round. If they were square, they wouldn't fit")

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