This is the agile suggestion. A previous commenter had it right imho. Its not that the approach isn't working, its that it has been co-opted by management and

This is the agile suggestion. A previous commenter had it right imho. Its not that the approach isn't working, its that it has been co-opted by management and requires separation to actually succeed. Another note would be that agile itself says: - non team members shouldn't be at stand ups etc. - points shouldn't be used for evaluation of performance (good luck with that) - if management joins anything other than the demo, they should not speak during the meeting (I've had some success here but also always been labeled a curiosity when I push management to be silent)