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How does this work for .com? Can I just get extorted for more money once my business becomes successful?

by bagels 4y ago

binarymax 4y ago
No, because for .com there is a free market and you can take your domain to another registrar. Google owns and operates these tlds and is effectively a monopoly
- toast0 4y ago
  Afaik, other registrars service the .dev TLD as well. The problem is that Google is the registry, and it seems that their contract with ICANN lets them charge more for premium domains and mark domains as premium as they see fit; but I didn't look up the contract to check. With .com, the contract between Verisign and ICANN specifies a maxium price and that price descrimination is not allowed. Edit: I found the gTLD base agreement[1], but didn't go looking further. It says, the registry needs to charge everyone the same price unless the registrant agreed to higher renewal pricing at the time of initial registration. I didn't look to see if there is any more specific agreement for .dev. But it seems like if this wasn't disclosed and explicitly agreed to during registration, the registry is in the wrong. However, a lot of people agree to things without paying attention. Would be good to check original paperwork and then see about how to get the registry's attention. [1] https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement-approved-31jul17-en.html#article2.10 https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/ag...
- charcircuit 4y ago
  How is Verisign any less of a monopoly than Google?
Ekaros 4y ago
Legacy is bit different place. There would be enough players hitting hard in various ways both ICANN and Verising running it that it won't happen. Technically they could, but it wouldn't end up well. Probably even nation states would have a word or piles of paper. gTLDs on other hand are owned by likes of Google so they can do just about anything.

How does this work for .com? Can I just get extorted for more money once my business becomes successful?

by bagels 4y ago

How does this work for .com? Can I just get extorted for more money once my business becomes successful?

No, because for .com there is a free market and you can take your domain to another registrar. Google owns and operates these tlds and is effectively a monopoly

toast0 4y ago
Afaik, other registrars service the .dev TLD as well. The problem is that Google is the registry, and it seems that their contract with ICANN lets them charge more for premium domains and mark domains as premium as they see fit; but I didn't look up the contract to check. With .com, the contract between Verisign and ICANN specifies a maxium price and that price descrimination is not allowed. Edit: I found the gTLD base agreement[1], but didn't go looking further. It says, the registry needs to charge everyone the same price unless the registrant agreed to higher renewal pricing at the time of initial registration. I didn't look to see if there is any more specific agreement for .dev. But it seems like if this wasn't disclosed and explicitly agreed to during registration, the registry is in the wrong. However, a lot of people agree to things without paying attention. Would be good to check original paperwork and then see about how to get the registry's attention. [1] https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement-approved-31jul17-en.html#article2.10 https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/ag...
charcircuit 4y ago
How is Verisign any less of a monopoly than Google?

Ekaros 4y ago

Legacy is bit different place. There would be enough players hitting hard in various ways both ICANN and Verising running it that it won't happen. Technically they could, but it wouldn't end up well. Probably even nation states would have a word or piles of paper. gTLDs on other hand are owned by likes of Google so they can do just about anything.