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When I've looked at domain names e.g. on Namecheap, you often see a much higher cost for the first year for premium domains, presumably because someone is squat
by version_five 4y ago
When I've looked at domain names e.g. on Namecheap, you often see a much higher cost for the first year for premium domains, presumably because someone is squatting it, but then it usually says "renews at $8.95" (for example) which I always took to be because the registrar is just acting as a registrar and once you own it, treats all domains the same.
If the information in this post is correct, it looks like google is just shaking down people who registered domains they control
- throwawaaarrgh 4y agoEvery registrar does this. Premium names get premium fees, either in initial payment, or for the renewals. Most likely the author just didn't know that renewals can be significantly more costly when they bought the domain.
- gorkemcetin 4y agoThe problem here is that, Google should have made very clear that the domain is converting to premium and provide necessary suggestions and/or give time to the newly-premium-assigned domain owner so he can act accordingly. Otherwise I don’t think this is not a sneaky way of doing business.
- davchana 4y agoA domain can br classified as premium any time, even after registration. The registry or registrar (but mostly registry) does it. In this case, Google is both registry & registrar.
- BoorishBears 4y agoI don't know what about their reply made you think they don't realize that. It seems you failed to parse the subtext: At Google scale this seems like generating a lot of gnashing of teeth for questionable benefit. - I don't know where the current trend of defending our corporate overlords as being emotionless bulldozers whose methods should not be questioned started but I wish it'd stop. I feel like it's rooted in thinking that people who assign malice "just don't get it, Google is way too big to care about this". But I'd say it's the other way around, people who can't understand that this is like an individual saying their vote doesn't matter: The singular action isn't the problem, it's letting the mentality take root in society that's a problem. tl;dr It's not a show of knowledge or intelligence to take the most blasè line of reasoning every time these companies screw someone over.
- davchana 4y agoI don't know what made you think that I am defending any overlord. Anything which bothers anyone, should be questioned, be it at any level. Its my understanding, that any registrar & registry does this, it is quite prevalent, my own one domain fell through this. In this case Google is both registry & registrar. Some others, like Donut, & many other registries also do it all the time. Google, or any registry for that matter, is not gonna care if somebody like me don't renew it (although as a principal I prefer to vote with wallet & have opinion that if regular domain gets classified as premium, one shouldn't renew & let registry try to see if they can get $$$ for it, barring any big business). Like many others, my digital life is also tangled with google ecoverse, and I am too lazy to even want it to be de-googled, although Google has hurt me quite a few times (first when they shut down the Reader), so, no I am not defending anybody. My understanding is, domains are on rent, nobody can own domain forever, at expiry owners (registry and or registrar) can price it what they want, and I try to register my important domains as far as possible.
- BoorishBears 4y ago> Anything which bothers anyone, should be questioned, be it at any level. I really question what makes a person need to live life like this. You're saying "at any level", so people really just aren't just allowed to be bothered by something, vent on their very reasonable grievance, and everyone moves on with their day... as long as you're around. No grievance shall pass this one untested! To be frank, that sounds like an exhausting and sparingly rewarding way to live life. And the irony when in your first sentence you're saying you're not defending them, and by your third sentence you've defended them again... maybe you should just read up on what "whataboutism" is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- davchana 4y agoAs English is not my first language, I don't think I am getting your point across, & I am reading conflicting points between your all messages. One can always take a part of sentence, & like splitting hairs, can manipulate that part's meaning. Just fot this post, by "at any level", I tried to agree to your original point of view that single vote matters, and one should stand up & raise voice, be it at whatever micro or tiny level (as long as the issue bothered one), just like a single vote. My third line is not an argument, it's a fact. Right or wrong, whatever one may think, it happens. Peace.
- CogitoCogito 4y agoWhat makes a name "premium"?
- gorkemcetin 4y agoThere are no clear rules, hence it is an arbitrary decision by the registrar.
- CogitoCogito 4y agoI guess clear rules disallowing registrars from charging different prices for different domains are called for.
- CogitoCogito 4y agoCan't edit so I'll reply. Just saw this post: > And to be clear, premium prices are set at the registry (i.e. wholesale) level, not at the registrar (i.e. retail) level. That means that these names are premium at all registrars. Premium pricing is not unique to Google (either the registry or registrar); it's used by nearly all new gTLDs. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33929615 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33929615 That's not as bad as I thought.
- ROTMetro 4y agoCertain factors determined by Google running your domain name through a RealPage algorithm.