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Depends on hat you consider "function". All Tesla vehicles are very aerodynamic. That means of course a bit less "practical" body shapes. Like lower headroom to

by _ph_ 4y ago

Depends on hat you consider "function". All Tesla vehicles are very aerodynamic. That means of course a bit less "practical" body shapes. Like lower headroom towards the back. So the question is, do you define functional as the most easy to use design, or the most efficient design? Efficiency does mean higher range, which is important for electrical vehicles.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
Has nothing to do with the body shape. 2 simple examples: 1. I don't think I've heard anyone (who doesn't work at Tesla) ever say anything positive about the driving yoke. 2. Using touch screens for everything. Obviously touchscreens have the benefit of allowing the UI to be reconfigurable, but other companies have done a much better job of having important physical buttons/controls where it makes sense.
- joshgachnang 4y ago
  I haven't read many people who actually have a car with the yolk have anything negative to say about it. Most of the comments I've seen are "yeah it was weird to get used to, now I like it" with a couple "I returned the car". Agreed it could use a few physical buttons (but not many, voice control + the steering wheel controls are the majority of my usage). They also really need a new lead UI designer.
  - nyrikki 4y ago
    Yoke steering wheel fundamentally interferes with skid recovery. a few moments in a skid monster or on a skid pad will show you why hand over hand is the only way to maintain control. It is the same reason steering wheel knobs are a bad idea unless you have physical requirements that require one. The yoke steering wheel is only a few lawsuits away from being a historical novelty.
- _ea1k 4y ago
  I watched the yoke thing pretty closely. The positives that I've heard all center around the turn signals. Apparently a lot of people get used to them and actually like the touch buttons! A surprising number prefer them! TBH, this kind of shocked me, but watching them use it makes it make sense. The horn button gets universally negative reviews. The yoke shape itself is more mixed, but I don't think I've run into anyone who'd prefer it over a round one. It more mixed between "I hate it" and "its ok". :)
  - _ea1k 4y ago
    I think its safe to say that the downvoters have never used one, lol.
- skunkworker 4y ago
  I've driven a friends Plaid with a yoke, I was surprised that it felt more like a yoke on top of regular steering column rather than a yoke from a kart or something that had progressive steering. Having to do hand over hand in order to turn tightly was very odd to use.
- _ph_ 4y ago
  In the context of the discussion, I considered "function" to be referring to the body shape. The points you name are a different discussion. But most Teslas don't have a yoke. That is so far limited to the Model S.

by _ph_ 4y ago

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago

Has nothing to do with the body shape. 2 simple examples: 1. I don't think I've heard anyone (who doesn't work at Tesla) ever say anything positive about the driving yoke. 2. Using touch screens for everything. Obviously touchscreens have the benefit of allowing the UI to be reconfigurable, but other companies have done a much better job of having important physical buttons/controls where it makes sense.

joshgachnang 4y ago
I haven't read many people who actually have a car with the yolk have anything negative to say about it. Most of the comments I've seen are "yeah it was weird to get used to, now I like it" with a couple "I returned the car". Agreed it could use a few physical buttons (but not many, voice control + the steering wheel controls are the majority of my usage). They also really need a new lead UI designer.
- nyrikki 4y ago
  Yoke steering wheel fundamentally interferes with skid recovery. a few moments in a skid monster or on a skid pad will show you why hand over hand is the only way to maintain control. It is the same reason steering wheel knobs are a bad idea unless you have physical requirements that require one. The yoke steering wheel is only a few lawsuits away from being a historical novelty.
_ea1k 4y ago
I watched the yoke thing pretty closely. The positives that I've heard all center around the turn signals. Apparently a lot of people get used to them and actually like the touch buttons! A surprising number prefer them! TBH, this kind of shocked me, but watching them use it makes it make sense. The horn button gets universally negative reviews. The yoke shape itself is more mixed, but I don't think I've run into anyone who'd prefer it over a round one. It more mixed between "I hate it" and "its ok". :)
- _ea1k 4y ago
  I think its safe to say that the downvoters have never used one, lol.
skunkworker 4y ago
I've driven a friends Plaid with a yoke, I was surprised that it felt more like a yoke on top of regular steering column rather than a yoke from a kart or something that had progressive steering. Having to do hand over hand in order to turn tightly was very odd to use.
_ph_ 4y ago
In the context of the discussion, I considered "function" to be referring to the body shape. The points you name are a different discussion. But most Teslas don't have a yoke. That is so far limited to the Model S.