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So they can struggle, go back to their old ways, and end up back in the system for 15 more years. This isn't just the case for these more vile crimes its also t

So they can struggle, go back to their old ways, and end up back in the system for 15 more years. This isn't just the case for these more vile crimes its also the case for even minor felonies. Generally people let out on probation, for example, are more-or-less permanently "imprisoned" and on a very short leash. It is remarkably easy to end up back in prison and it's not even as complicated as failing a drug test or missing counseling. The entire system from the bottom up is rigged against a former con. If we are to believe justice systems should be rehabilitative than when the con is released they should be made whole and all record expunged. Otherwise, we may as well kill them. They are dead to society anyway. Supposing you aren't a young offender that gets out while you still have some strength the jobs that will hire you (mostly the more dangerous labor jobs) won't have any use for you. It's a shame. This recruiter is a perfect example of perpetuating the system by giving two extreme examples. I'm sure they won't hire anyone with a felony. Mostly because in their upper middle class upbringing they never had the threat of prison held over them. Must be nice.

notch656a 4y ago
It could be simultaneously true that our justice system punishes people in general too harshly (or any many cases punishes when they should not be punished at all) while simultaneously true the example OP gave of rapist or violent child abuser being deserving of put on a very short leash if they are not to be executed. Honestly I think it's a testament to the mercy and leniency of society that someone who violently rapes another isn't lined up and executed after the conviction and appeals are exhausted. Personally I'm of the opinion that almost all crimes can be solved without jailtime. The vast majority can be solved with some sort of restitution and/or rehabilitative counseling and service after which they should be given back their horse and their gun and full rights of a citizen. A slight minority just line them up and end the problem (after conviction and appeals). Prison and a life-long record are impediments to rehabilitation and ultimately harm society.

notch656a 4y ago

It could be simultaneously true that our justice system punishes people in general too harshly (or any many cases punishes when they should not be punished at all) while simultaneously true the example OP gave of rapist or violent child abuser being deserving of put on a very short leash if they are not to be executed. Honestly I think it's a testament to the mercy and leniency of society that someone who violently rapes another isn't lined up and executed after the conviction and appeals are exhausted. Personally I'm of the opinion that almost all crimes can be solved without jailtime. The vast majority can be solved with some sort of restitution and/or rehabilitative counseling and service after which they should be given back their horse and their gun and full rights of a citizen. A slight minority just line them up and end the problem (after conviction and appeals). Prison and a life-long record are impediments to rehabilitation and ultimately harm society.