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Valid points, although risks seem to depend on the scale. A worldwide conflict would have different risks than two-state conflict. I don't see any reflection in

by iisan7 4y ago

Valid points, although risks seem to depend on the scale. A worldwide conflict would have different risks than two-state conflict. I don't see any reflection in the article or linked materials on the lessons from Ukraine, and the potential role of satellite internet in bridging localized infrastructure gaps.

throwaway4aday 4y ago
I don't think many lessons about a potential world war could be gleaned from Ukraine. A world war is going to necessarily pull in all of the major powers which means that there won't be a single front, navy and air force will be involved and strikes deep into territory on all sides will happen via missile, bombers, and drones. In short, it would be chaotic and fast moving with destruction happening everywhere. The involvement of satellites is terrifying since they would be a prime target and would likely be one of the first major casualties.
- giraffe_lady 4y ago
  - s5300 4y ago
    Eh, somebody has to, or eventually bad things will happen. Impossible to know the statistics of how useful it actually is, but every governments military has entire divisions dedicated to simulating war. I think one of said divisions are the reason we didn’t end up having a nuclear exchange, as he knew the chips running the computer were pretty old & due for replacement. One day said computer says “enemy nukes incoming” completely out of the blue & with no real ongoing geopolitical tensions… I think his higher ups nearly made the decision to order him to press the red button, but he put his years of knowledge & faith in the fact the computer radar whatever was malfunctioning & nukes hadn’t actually been launched. He was right. If he hadn’t fantasized about this scenario & known the ins & outs of the technology involved? Well, the world might’ve been fucked decades ago. I realize what I’ve said isn’t entirely relevant to your reply, but some external perspective never hurts. Make fun of all the people who do have to worry about what might happen in modern war, & they may just become jaded enough to say “fuck it, these people are dicks anyways” & press the red button, knowing they’ll all be disappearing with him.
- pjscott 4y ago
  There are over 3000 satellites in the Starlink network alone. How many anti-satellite missiles are there? Would taking out all those satellites be worth the cost?
  - Dah00n 4y ago
    After a few the rest would likely go down by debris. Not that it would matter as a world war would already have caused so much debris from destroyed satellites that nothing up there would work anyway.
    - datameta 4y ago
      Kessler Syndrome prevention pacts would function similarly to MAD policies, I imagine.

by iisan7 4y ago

throwaway4aday 4y ago

I don't think many lessons about a potential world war could be gleaned from Ukraine. A world war is going to necessarily pull in all of the major powers which means that there won't be a single front, navy and air force will be involved and strikes deep into territory on all sides will happen via missile, bombers, and drones. In short, it would be chaotic and fast moving with destruction happening everywhere. The involvement of satellites is terrifying since they would be a prime target and would likely be one of the first major casualties.

giraffe_lady 4y ago
- s5300 4y ago
  Eh, somebody has to, or eventually bad things will happen. Impossible to know the statistics of how useful it actually is, but every governments military has entire divisions dedicated to simulating war. I think one of said divisions are the reason we didn’t end up having a nuclear exchange, as he knew the chips running the computer were pretty old & due for replacement. One day said computer says “enemy nukes incoming” completely out of the blue & with no real ongoing geopolitical tensions… I think his higher ups nearly made the decision to order him to press the red button, but he put his years of knowledge & faith in the fact the computer radar whatever was malfunctioning & nukes hadn’t actually been launched. He was right. If he hadn’t fantasized about this scenario & known the ins & outs of the technology involved? Well, the world might’ve been fucked decades ago. I realize what I’ve said isn’t entirely relevant to your reply, but some external perspective never hurts. Make fun of all the people who do have to worry about what might happen in modern war, & they may just become jaded enough to say “fuck it, these people are dicks anyways” & press the red button, knowing they’ll all be disappearing with him.
pjscott 4y ago
There are over 3000 satellites in the Starlink network alone. How many anti-satellite missiles are there? Would taking out all those satellites be worth the cost?
- Dah00n 4y ago
  After a few the rest would likely go down by debris. Not that it would matter as a world war would already have caused so much debris from destroyed satellites that nothing up there would work anyway.
  - datameta 4y ago
    Kessler Syndrome prevention pacts would function similarly to MAD policies, I imagine.