Just hopping on your comment to make a tangentially related point. I think the thing the vast majority of comments on hn regarding fake meats miss is the 3 fac

Just hopping on your comment to make a tangentially related point. I think the thing the vast majority of comments on hn regarding fake meats miss is the 3 factors in going vegetarian (1. environment, 2. animal welfare, 3. health) are completely independent. Like I care a lot about 2, some about 1 (in that it's not my motivating factor just a nice side benefit) and not at all about 3. I'd be eating like crap if I ate meat too, sausages, KFC, McDonald's. The cool thing about meat substitutes is you no longer need to be an incredibly intense lentil-weaving, yoghurt-knitting hippie to go vegetarian, you can do it if any one of the 2 non-health factors is motivating enough.