> Agree, can we have a better educated and sourced discussion instead of yours? Well, luckily we do not live in Russia, so we can still do our own civil invest

> Agree, can we have a better educated and sourced discussion instead of yours? Well, luckily we do not live in Russia, so we can still do our own civil investigation > Your source makes huge overreaching claims by only citing McCain visiting Ukraine and Nuland expressing preference for new leadership to an ambassador. It's a documented issue, it's one of the source material Here is another one, still from a western source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA...