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I understand the term to mean - dense protein vs calories - adequate quantities of all consituient amino acids - easily digestable So e.g. beef is a higher

by dilap 4y ago

I understand the term to mean - dense protein vs calories - adequate quantities of all consituient amino acids - easily digestable So e.g. beef is a higher quality protein than beans, by that metric. It's hard to know the ideal amount of protein for sure w/o e.g. life-long RCTs (and even then, that answer will only be for whatever context those studies are done in), and to be sure there are people to advocate for low-protein diets as well as for high-protein. Personally, I'm placing my bets on high-protein. I've tried everything from vegan to vegetarian to (now) meat-based diets, and I feel by far the healthiest and strongest on a meat based diet. (And it's my most recent diet, so I have the disadvantage of aging going along w/ it.) Given the lack of consensus around dietary topics, I'd advise all people to keep an open mind and do some indivdual experimentation. (I take it as an axiom that feeling good, strong, healthy in the moment is a good predictor of health over the long term, thus making personal experimentation a valid approach. Of course that could in theory be not true, but it seems very unlikely to me.)

Buttons840 4y ago
> I take it as an axiom that feeling good, strong, healthy in the moment is a good predictor of health over the long term, thus making personal experimentation a valid approach. Of course that could in theory be not true, but it seems very unlikely to me. There are many example of things that make you feel good in the short term, but not in the long term. It's not a wild "theory", it's a pattern we see all over the place. I'm not sure why that would seem unlikely to you. I feel better in the moment while eating a dozen cookies. I feel worse later. I feel better for a few hours when I take an opioid or other drugs, but long term it's not going to be for the better. I'll feel better for a few days if I skip my workout today, I wont feel sore and beat up. After a week or two, old aches and pains will return, and over the long run not exercising will cause me more and more problems. Billions of people overeat and have an unhealthy body weight which causes them problems. They do it because overeating feels good in the moment. Is it really that unthinkable that eating a lot of red meat can make a person feel good but increase their risk of cardiovascular disease long term? We may not agree whether or not this is true, but can we at least agree that if it is true, it follows the exact same pattern as many other things in life?
- dilap 4y ago
  Those are all short-term phenomenons, though, providing rapid feedback in both feeling worse and having worse performance. I mean, sure, it's possible that eating food which makes you feel good (over weeks and months, not just for 1 hour and then w/ a hangover) is actually unhealthy, but it seems unlikely, especially if you're eating traditional foods which your body should have incorporated knowledge of through evolution.

by dilap 4y ago

Buttons840 4y ago

> I take it as an axiom that feeling good, strong, healthy in the moment is a good predictor of health over the long term, thus making personal experimentation a valid approach. Of course that could in theory be not true, but it seems very unlikely to me. There are many example of things that make you feel good in the short term, but not in the long term. It's not a wild "theory", it's a pattern we see all over the place. I'm not sure why that would seem unlikely to you. I feel better in the moment while eating a dozen cookies. I feel worse later. I feel better for a few hours when I take an opioid or other drugs, but long term it's not going to be for the better. I'll feel better for a few days if I skip my workout today, I wont feel sore and beat up. After a week or two, old aches and pains will return, and over the long run not exercising will cause me more and more problems. Billions of people overeat and have an unhealthy body weight which causes them problems. They do it because overeating feels good in the moment. Is it really that unthinkable that eating a lot of red meat can make a person feel good but increase their risk of cardiovascular disease long term? We may not agree whether or not this is true, but can we at least agree that if it is true, it follows the exact same pattern as many other things in life?

dilap 4y ago
Those are all short-term phenomenons, though, providing rapid feedback in both feeling worse and having worse performance. I mean, sure, it's possible that eating food which makes you feel good (over weeks and months, not just for 1 hour and then w/ a hangover) is actually unhealthy, but it seems unlikely, especially if you're eating traditional foods which your body should have incorporated knowledge of through evolution.