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Besides CCC, I'm not sure what kind of infrastructure you could use, if you expect (lets say) 1000+ viewers from around the world. Running it yourself would be

Besides CCC, I'm not sure what kind of infrastructure you could use, if you expect (lets say) 1000+ viewers from around the world. Running it yourself would be a lot, and you'd have to reach out to CCC way before in order to set things up with them to ensure good service. What alternative are you suggesting here?

BeetleB 4y ago
The EmacsConf folks managed to do it.
- azangru 4y ago
  Were they streaming real-time? I could only find that they are hosting their videos on https://media.emacsconf.org https://media.emacsconf.org (would be interested to know who the host is and how much it costs to host videos in this way).
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Hosting videos is trivial, especially for a relatively low-traffic event like this. Getting a dedicated host with unlimited traffic (like what Hetzner offers), you usually get a 1G uplink or better, should be able to host it no problem. Under 100 USD/month should be doable.
    - hwayne 4y ago
      Right now there's 1,400 streamers.
      - capableweb 4y ago
        I assumed parents second question was about hosting videos for download, not hosting live streaming.
      - pxc 4y ago
        Shouldn't something like PeerTube scale nicely for having lots of viewers? Does it still use P2P for live streaming?
- capableweb 4y ago
  After browsing around the website for EmacsConf, I don't find much information exactly how they did it. What software they used? Where is the infrastructure hosted?
  - pxc 4y ago
    There's (undocumented) IaC for the Jitsi-based multistreaming infrastructure used for NixCon's all-virtual 2020 conference here: https://github.com/nixcon/nixcon-video-infra https://github.com/nixcon/nixcon-video-infra I think it was quite a bit of work, but it worked very well. You can see the results here, according to your preference: https://conf.tube/c/nixcon2020/videos?s=1 https://conf.tube/c/nixcon2020/videos?s=1 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgknCdxP89RcXpf7xLU7tuWXTOsL1rSHU https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgknCdxP89RcXpf7xLU7t... The authors on that GitHub repo might be able to offer some advice or other help to F/OSS communities interested in hosting conferences where presenters can call in using only free software!
  - BeetleB 4y ago
    I think this year most of the talks were prerecorded and only the Q&A was live (not sure if the Q&A was video or not). I know in 2020 the talks were live. You can look at the "Behind The Scenes" section to see what they used: https://emacsconf.org/2020/ https://emacsconf.org/2020/
- pxc 4y ago
  IIRC 2020's all-virtual NixCon was simultaneously streamed to live.nixos.org, YouTube, Twitter, and maybe a PeerTube instance (conf.tube?) from self-hosted infrastructure. The more recent one in Paris might've been only on YouTube, idr. So maybe it doesn't always seem worth it to conference organizers. But it definitely seems at least doable.
goodpoint 4y ago
Peertube does live p2p streaming. Plus you can also register the videos in advance given that this is not an in-person conference. Also CCC as you pointed out. And more.

BeetleB 4y ago

The EmacsConf folks managed to do it.

azangru 4y ago
Were they streaming real-time? I could only find that they are hosting their videos on https://media.emacsconf.org https://media.emacsconf.org (would be interested to know who the host is and how much it costs to host videos in this way).
- capableweb 4y ago
  Hosting videos is trivial, especially for a relatively low-traffic event like this. Getting a dedicated host with unlimited traffic (like what Hetzner offers), you usually get a 1G uplink or better, should be able to host it no problem. Under 100 USD/month should be doable.
  - hwayne 4y ago
    Right now there's 1,400 streamers.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      I assumed parents second question was about hosting videos for download, not hosting live streaming.
    - pxc 4y ago
      Shouldn't something like PeerTube scale nicely for having lots of viewers? Does it still use P2P for live streaming?
capableweb 4y ago
After browsing around the website for EmacsConf, I don't find much information exactly how they did it. What software they used? Where is the infrastructure hosted?
- pxc 4y ago
  There's (undocumented) IaC for the Jitsi-based multistreaming infrastructure used for NixCon's all-virtual 2020 conference here: https://github.com/nixcon/nixcon-video-infra https://github.com/nixcon/nixcon-video-infra I think it was quite a bit of work, but it worked very well. You can see the results here, according to your preference: https://conf.tube/c/nixcon2020/videos?s=1 https://conf.tube/c/nixcon2020/videos?s=1 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgknCdxP89RcXpf7xLU7tuWXTOsL1rSHU https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgknCdxP89RcXpf7xLU7t... The authors on that GitHub repo might be able to offer some advice or other help to F/OSS communities interested in hosting conferences where presenters can call in using only free software!
- BeetleB 4y ago
  I think this year most of the talks were prerecorded and only the Q&A was live (not sure if the Q&A was video or not). I know in 2020 the talks were live. You can look at the "Behind The Scenes" section to see what they used: https://emacsconf.org/2020/ https://emacsconf.org/2020/
pxc 4y ago
IIRC 2020's all-virtual NixCon was simultaneously streamed to live.nixos.org, YouTube, Twitter, and maybe a PeerTube instance (conf.tube?) from self-hosted infrastructure. The more recent one in Paris might've been only on YouTube, idr. So maybe it doesn't always seem worth it to conference organizers. But it definitely seems at least doable.

goodpoint 4y ago

Peertube does live p2p streaming. Plus you can also register the videos in advance given that this is not an in-person conference. Also CCC as you pointed out. And more.