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Big "if". The Irish DPA is about as useful as a marzipan dildo due to being chronically underfunded.

hnbad 4y ago
Sure but the claim was that TikTok is practically immune because they're a Chinese company and thus don't care what the EU thinks. My point was that they do business in the EU via their EU subsidiary in Ireland and that one is very much subject to EU laws. Additionally the alternative to having a subsidiary in Ireland with a "special relationship" with the Irish DPA (look up "GDPR one-stop shop") they'd be subject to every single DPA in the EU at the same time, not just the Irish one, which would also mean every DPA could fine them independently. This is why people familiar with this arrangement paid particular attention to the restructuring at Twitter Ireland (and especially its involvement in reviewing feature proposals for compliance) which seems to have killed its GDPR OSS role.
Nextgrid 4y ago
Calling them chronically underfunded is very charitable. Corrupt would be a more accurate term considering they’ve privately collaborated with Facebook on ways to effectively bypass the regulation they’re supposed to be enforcing, in disagreement with most other DPAs.
- Supernaut 4y ago
  Citation, please?
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    See https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-greenlights-facebooks-gdpr-bypass https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-greenlights-facebooks-gdpr-bypa....
    - Supernaut 4y ago
      Thank you! Interesting reading and not a good look for the DPC in question. That said, your use of the term "corrupt" implies that she has personally profited from the draft decision, and to be fair, I don't see any suggestion of that in the noyb article.
      - Nextgrid 4y ago
        You wouldn't know if it was under the table or if it was non-monetary favours such as promotions for friends/family working at Meta or the implied promise of a nice high-paying position once they're out of the DPA role. It could also be corruption at a higher level - the only reason Big Tech likes Ireland is because it's somewhat of a tax haven and accommodates unlawful practices like this one - if they stop being accommodating the companies will leave, so there's an incentive to not piss them off too much.

Sure but the claim was that TikTok is practically immune because they're a Chinese company and thus don't care what the EU thinks. My point was that they do business in the EU via their EU subsidiary in Ireland and that one is very much subject to EU laws. Additionally the alternative to having a subsidiary in Ireland with a "special relationship" with the Irish DPA (look up "GDPR one-stop shop") they'd be subject to every single DPA in the EU at the same time, not just the Irish one, which would also mean every DPA could fine them independently. This is why people familiar with this arrangement paid particular attention to the restructuring at Twitter Ireland (and especially its involvement in reviewing feature proposals for compliance) which seems to have killed its GDPR OSS role.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Calling them chronically underfunded is very charitable. Corrupt would be a more accurate term considering they’ve privately collaborated with Facebook on ways to effectively bypass the regulation they’re supposed to be enforcing, in disagreement with most other DPAs.

Supernaut 4y ago
Citation, please?
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  See https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-greenlights-facebooks-gdpr-bypass https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-greenlights-facebooks-gdpr-bypa....
  - Supernaut 4y ago
    Thank you! Interesting reading and not a good look for the DPC in question. That said, your use of the term "corrupt" implies that she has personally profited from the draft decision, and to be fair, I don't see any suggestion of that in the noyb article.
    - Nextgrid 4y ago
      You wouldn't know if it was under the table or if it was non-monetary favours such as promotions for friends/family working at Meta or the implied promise of a nice high-paying position once they're out of the DPA role. It could also be corruption at a higher level - the only reason Big Tech likes Ireland is because it's somewhat of a tax haven and accommodates unlawful practices like this one - if they stop being accommodating the companies will leave, so there's an incentive to not piss them off too much.