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Hello from Europe! While I agree that there really aren't any winners in a war from a humanitarian perspective, it really doesn't feel here like we are losing.

by terryf 4y ago

Hello from Europe! While I agree that there really aren't any winners in a war from a humanitarian perspective, it really doesn't feel here like we are losing. I'm happy to pay a lot for electricity and gas if that means the Russian government will fall and their army will be reduced to shreds (although the gas prices right now are almost the same as they used to be before the war... ) Also to the US, this is an incredibly cheap (it's what, $50B this year?) way of bringing the Russian army to it's knees.

icare_1er 4y ago
You may be happy to pay more (sounds a lot like "the bread is expensive ? let them have brioche"), but that's not the case for business owners of small restaurant, bakeries, etc, that have an electricity bill which has doubled, tripled, or even more in some cases, not even talking about the state of mortgages.
- terryf 4y ago
  And I'm also pying the bakeries and business owners more for their services. Really, talking to people here - even random ones, like a taxi driver, I've literally never ran into anyone that does not want to keep supporting Ukraine. Because we know that if Russia wins in Ukraine, we are next. What's money against your life and the feeling of safety?
  - icare_1er 4y ago
    Oh, i'm sure that people want to support Ukraine indeed, and they also want lower inflation and energy prices, just like they want strong social-protections with lower taxes. But if you're telling me that people are happy with the 10% inflation, the energy bills and the mortgages, then fine, I feel better now, I thought this would not be bearable for very long.
lancelot-ru 4y ago
This means that you would like to see as many as possible Russian people killed. You started the whole thing in order to plunder Russia, you are indeed monsters though you "think" you are innocent, and I hope you and above all your american lords, will get the Nurenburg tribunal you deserve for creating this war and the hatred for the Russian people to justify it.
_5yv8 4y ago
Well life in Russia keeps going on as before with cheap food, gas and electricity - basically all basic needs. And the Rubel is the best performing currency this year. That the Russian gov will fall sounds extremely unlikely as someone who spent the last years in Russia. Life still goes on as usual, while in the EU it seems to crumble a bit.

by terryf 4y ago

icare_1er 4y ago

You may be happy to pay more (sounds a lot like "the bread is expensive ? let them have brioche"), but that's not the case for business owners of small restaurant, bakeries, etc, that have an electricity bill which has doubled, tripled, or even more in some cases, not even talking about the state of mortgages.

terryf 4y ago
And I'm also pying the bakeries and business owners more for their services. Really, talking to people here - even random ones, like a taxi driver, I've literally never ran into anyone that does not want to keep supporting Ukraine. Because we know that if Russia wins in Ukraine, we are next. What's money against your life and the feeling of safety?
- icare_1er 4y ago
  Oh, i'm sure that people want to support Ukraine indeed, and they also want lower inflation and energy prices, just like they want strong social-protections with lower taxes. But if you're telling me that people are happy with the 10% inflation, the energy bills and the mortgages, then fine, I feel better now, I thought this would not be bearable for very long.

lancelot-ru 4y ago

This means that you would like to see as many as possible Russian people killed. You started the whole thing in order to plunder Russia, you are indeed monsters though you "think" you are innocent, and I hope you and above all your american lords, will get the Nurenburg tribunal you deserve for creating this war and the hatred for the Russian people to justify it.

_5yv8 4y ago

Well life in Russia keeps going on as before with cheap food, gas and electricity - basically all basic needs. And the Rubel is the best performing currency this year. That the Russian gov will fall sounds extremely unlikely as someone who spent the last years in Russia. Life still goes on as usual, while in the EU it seems to crumble a bit.