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> Sanctions only affects the people, not the governments, Western sanctions have demonstrably prevented the Russians from obtaining equipment vital for their m

> Sanctions only affects the people, not the governments, Western sanctions have demonstrably prevented the Russians from obtaining equipment vital for their military-industrial complex. Right now there were supposed to be hundreds of Armatas and SU-57s, but all the Russians have are a dozen prototypes of each.

Kukumber 4y ago
They got their drones from Iran, so no, it doesn't work Worse, they formed a new economic alliance called BRICS
- mannerheim 4y ago
  The fact that they have to get their drones from Iran instead of the obvious choice of China says enough on itself. BRICS isn't new and it basically only exists on paper. We're talking about a supposed alliance whose two largest members, India and China, are currently engaged in a conflict over Kashmir. Speaking of India, as much as they're happy to continue buying Russian oil, they already anticipated Russia's inability to produce modern fighter jets and cancelled their order.
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    > The fact that they have to get their drones from Iran instead of the obvious choice of China says enough on itself. Indeed Can you please provide a source for your other claims?
    - mannerheim 4y ago
      First BRICS summit in 2009: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_BRIC_summit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_BRIC_summit India-China skirmishes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%... Indian purchase of SU-30 and MiG-29s reportedly cancelled: https://scroll.in/latest/1018714/india-cancelled-orders-for-mig-29-jets-from-russia-over-last-few-weeks-claims-us https://scroll.in/latest/1018714/india-cancelled-orders-for-... However, looks like there hadn't been a formal cancellation, and the deal was awaiting final approval from the Indian defence ministry: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-formal-decision-yet-on-cancellation-of-fighter-helicopter-deals-with-russia/article65193689.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-formal-decision-ye... I don't see any news about such an approval or a confirmed cancellation, so it's probably on hold at the moment.

Kukumber 4y ago

They got their drones from Iran, so no, it doesn't work Worse, they formed a new economic alliance called BRICS

mannerheim 4y ago
The fact that they have to get their drones from Iran instead of the obvious choice of China says enough on itself. BRICS isn't new and it basically only exists on paper. We're talking about a supposed alliance whose two largest members, India and China, are currently engaged in a conflict over Kashmir. Speaking of India, as much as they're happy to continue buying Russian oil, they already anticipated Russia's inability to produce modern fighter jets and cancelled their order.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  > The fact that they have to get their drones from Iran instead of the obvious choice of China says enough on itself. Indeed Can you please provide a source for your other claims?
  - mannerheim 4y ago
    First BRICS summit in 2009: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_BRIC_summit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_BRIC_summit India-China skirmishes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%... Indian purchase of SU-30 and MiG-29s reportedly cancelled: https://scroll.in/latest/1018714/india-cancelled-orders-for-mig-29-jets-from-russia-over-last-few-weeks-claims-us https://scroll.in/latest/1018714/india-cancelled-orders-for-... However, looks like there hadn't been a formal cancellation, and the deal was awaiting final approval from the Indian defence ministry: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-formal-decision-yet-on-cancellation-of-fighter-helicopter-deals-with-russia/article65193689.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-formal-decision-ye... I don't see any news about such an approval or a confirmed cancellation, so it's probably on hold at the moment.