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Is there a conference for everything nowadays? I mean with the digital conference it's not really going to happen, but didn't some companies declare bankruptcy

Is there a conference for everything nowadays? I mean with the digital conference it's not really going to happen, but didn't some companies declare bankruptcy because they kept pouring all their money and effort into conferences?

azemetre 4y ago
I like niche conferences, especially more-so if you're part of the group! I've been using vim for my entire career and neovim since around v0.2. One of vim/neovim conferences (forgot which one) I was introduce to one of my favorite plugins: harpoon [1]. I would have never learned about this plugin if it wasn't for these types conferences. [1] https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/harpoon https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/harpoon
- TymekDev 4y ago
  It is the same conference! They have rebranded this year to Neovim conf [0]. The conference however is not exclusive to Neovim content. [0]: https://www.neovimconf.live/rebranding-rationale https://www.neovimconf.live/rebranding-rationale
  - capableweb 4y ago
    That's confusing to say, at best. If it's called VimConf, I could understand including content from anything vim related, even vi or neovim stuff (or from the other forks/variations/bases). But if it's called NeovimConf, I wouldn't expect that to include the entire Vi ecosystem.
    - ehutch79 4y ago
      According to the FAQs they rebranded because all the traditional vim people complained about too much neovim content. Apparently the neovim people are more chill about it.
      - rhaway84773 4y ago
        Most VIM stuff works in NeoVIM as well. NeoVIM exclusive stuff doesn’t work as well or at all in VIM.
        nerdponx 4y ago
        That will be changing soon. Vim 9 has a new version of Vimscript (called Vim9script) which Neovim doesn't support, and its APIs for things like async jobs are also different. However Vimscript itself will probably remain a common denominator for many years to come.
        cbm-vic-20 4y ago
        TJ DeVries (one of the Neovim contributors, and a frequent streamer) was working on some sort of vim9 translation support for Neovim. Seems more like a side project rather than something that will be built into Neovim, though. https://github.com/tjdevries/vim9jit https://github.com/tjdevries/vim9jit
      - User23 4y ago
        The neovim people are even chill about Emacs evil-mode content.
- nomilk 4y ago
  What's the connection between ThePrimeagen and Neovim?
  - nomilk 4y ago
    Looks like ThePrimeagen is one of the conference hosts/announcers
  - azemetre 4y ago
    IDK, you'd have to ask him yourself. What I was referring to was this plugin he made and gave a talk on in a past vim conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnos8aApa9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnos8aApa9g Harpoon is really cool, especially if you only work with 3 to 4 files. The ability to switch files with two keys is extremely nice. It's just a very ergonomic and pleasant plugin to use.
sva_ 4y ago
Need a conference on conferences
- hwayne 4y ago
  Hell yeah. I've heard enough war stories from conference organizers to know that they'd really benefit from a small conference to share tips on running conferences. The problem is that anyone who'd benefit from it would want to run it.
phantomread 4y ago
You might already know this but niche conferences are part of some larger marketing strategies. Seeing conferences for a product can add legitimacy in the minds of people who are shopping for solutions. But over time I've realized there's more to it, almost an Inception-like quality to a lot of conference topics. A company I worked for had a whole division dedicated to inventing conferences around products or ideas that other companies wanted to promote. A great example are conferences where there are talks on cloud-based tools. The speakers don't just go up there and say "go buy compute from vendor X". Instead, everything is structured around how to use (often free) tools or techniques that ultimately require investment in "compute or storage from vendor X". Another, more abstract, example is a conference on programming languages or frameworks. These are great places to push ideas about "the new way" or "the right way" to do something that happen to include something you're selling. I've seen conferences make attendees into low-level developer evangelists. Those people went back to their companies to endorse programming languages and architectures that had a lot of support from particular vendors, and the cycle was complete. It may seem a bit hand-wavy the way I've explained it, but I've seen it work. My point is, conferences may cost a lot to put on but have quite a few obscured benefits that you have to price in when considering if they're worth it.

azemetre 4y ago

I like niche conferences, especially more-so if you're part of the group! I've been using vim for my entire career and neovim since around v0.2. One of vim/neovim conferences (forgot which one) I was introduce to one of my favorite plugins: harpoon [1]. I would have never learned about this plugin if it wasn't for these types conferences. [1] https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/harpoon https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/harpoon

TymekDev 4y ago
It is the same conference! They have rebranded this year to Neovim conf [0]. The conference however is not exclusive to Neovim content. [0]: https://www.neovimconf.live/rebranding-rationale https://www.neovimconf.live/rebranding-rationale
- capableweb 4y ago
  That's confusing to say, at best. If it's called VimConf, I could understand including content from anything vim related, even vi or neovim stuff (or from the other forks/variations/bases). But if it's called NeovimConf, I wouldn't expect that to include the entire Vi ecosystem.
  - ehutch79 4y ago
    According to the FAQs they rebranded because all the traditional vim people complained about too much neovim content. Apparently the neovim people are more chill about it.
    - rhaway84773 4y ago
      Most VIM stuff works in NeoVIM as well. NeoVIM exclusive stuff doesn’t work as well or at all in VIM.
      - nerdponx 4y ago
        That will be changing soon. Vim 9 has a new version of Vimscript (called Vim9script) which Neovim doesn't support, and its APIs for things like async jobs are also different. However Vimscript itself will probably remain a common denominator for many years to come.
        cbm-vic-20 4y ago
        TJ DeVries (one of the Neovim contributors, and a frequent streamer) was working on some sort of vim9 translation support for Neovim. Seems more like a side project rather than something that will be built into Neovim, though. https://github.com/tjdevries/vim9jit https://github.com/tjdevries/vim9jit
    - User23 4y ago
      The neovim people are even chill about Emacs evil-mode content.
nomilk 4y ago
What's the connection between ThePrimeagen and Neovim?
- nomilk 4y ago
  Looks like ThePrimeagen is one of the conference hosts/announcers
- azemetre 4y ago
  IDK, you'd have to ask him yourself. What I was referring to was this plugin he made and gave a talk on in a past vim conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnos8aApa9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnos8aApa9g Harpoon is really cool, especially if you only work with 3 to 4 files. The ability to switch files with two keys is extremely nice. It's just a very ergonomic and pleasant plugin to use.

sva_ 4y ago

Need a conference on conferences

hwayne 4y ago
Hell yeah. I've heard enough war stories from conference organizers to know that they'd really benefit from a small conference to share tips on running conferences. The problem is that anyone who'd benefit from it would want to run it.

phantomread 4y ago

You might already know this but niche conferences are part of some larger marketing strategies. Seeing conferences for a product can add legitimacy in the minds of people who are shopping for solutions. But over time I've realized there's more to it, almost an Inception-like quality to a lot of conference topics. A company I worked for had a whole division dedicated to inventing conferences around products or ideas that other companies wanted to promote. A great example are conferences where there are talks on cloud-based tools. The speakers don't just go up there and say "go buy compute from vendor X". Instead, everything is structured around how to use (often free) tools or techniques that ultimately require investment in "compute or storage from vendor X". Another, more abstract, example is a conference on programming languages or frameworks. These are great places to push ideas about "the new way" or "the right way" to do something that happen to include something you're selling. I've seen conferences make attendees into low-level developer evangelists. Those people went back to their companies to endorse programming languages and architectures that had a lot of support from particular vendors, and the cycle was complete. It may seem a bit hand-wavy the way I've explained it, but I've seen it work. My point is, conferences may cost a lot to put on but have quite a few obscured benefits that you have to price in when considering if they're worth it.