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> why is it painful? well, that comes back to the question of why anything is painful. This is such a jordan peterson style non-answer x 'what does it really m

> why is it painful? well, that comes back to the question of why anything is painful. This is such a jordan peterson style non-answer x 'what does it really mean to order a pizza"

oneoff786 4y ago
Not really. Pain is caused by things going wrong in your body. Poison causes things to go wrong. It’s not surprising most of them are painful.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  This is totally meaningless - carbon monoxide poisoning causes things to go wrong, and is painless death. Countless other examples.
  - oneoff786 4y ago
    No it’s mostly just that oxygen deprivation is an uncommon edge case for a painless death.
  - jokethrowaway 4y ago
    We evolved different pain receptors to understand when we're being harmed. Carbon monoxide poisoning wasn't common enough to warrant one.
  - LorenPechtel 4y ago
    It's painful if it's not fast.
ilyt 4y ago
- numpad0 4y ago
  It feels obvious, but, how do something stopping existence cause signals rising? Do they have molecular scale system heartbeat monitoring, or what? I don’t see data to draw conclusions from.
  - PhasmaFelis 4y ago
    My understanding is that it stops oxygen uptake from your blood to your cells, so it feels like you're not getting enough air, like you're choking or drowning. But I'm not an expert.
    - KMag 4y ago
      I've accidentally passed out from breathing helium from a 10-foot weather balloon. It's not painful at all, actually slightly pleasant. A lack of oxygen absorption doesn't directly cause discomfort. Increased blood CO2 is the main cause of discomfort from holding your breath for a long time. This is why hyperventilating to bring your CO2 level down helps you hold your breath longer. (The light headedness from hyperventilation is a consequence of low CO2.) I don't believe cyanide particularly increases blood CO2 prior to loss of consciousness. Also, I'm told carbon monoxide poisoning isn't particularly uncomfortable, and also interferes with oxygen transport. So, your proposed mechanism seems unlikely.
      - KMag 4y ago
        Someone else here mentioned that cyanide poisoning is painful due to lactate production: that muscle burn from working out, but presumably worse, building until death. Other tissues besides muscles may also have lactate receptors; I'm not sure. If that's the case, your whole body may have that workout burn.

> why is it painful? well, that comes back to the question of why anything is painful. This is such a jordan peterson style non-answer x 'what does it really mean to order a pizza"

oneoff786 4y ago

Not really. Pain is caused by things going wrong in your body. Poison causes things to go wrong. It’s not surprising most of them are painful.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
This is totally meaningless - carbon monoxide poisoning causes things to go wrong, and is painless death. Countless other examples.
- oneoff786 4y ago
  No it’s mostly just that oxygen deprivation is an uncommon edge case for a painless death.
- jokethrowaway 4y ago
  We evolved different pain receptors to understand when we're being harmed. Carbon monoxide poisoning wasn't common enough to warrant one.
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  It's painful if it's not fast.

ilyt 4y ago

numpad0 4y ago
It feels obvious, but, how do something stopping existence cause signals rising? Do they have molecular scale system heartbeat monitoring, or what? I don’t see data to draw conclusions from.
- PhasmaFelis 4y ago
  My understanding is that it stops oxygen uptake from your blood to your cells, so it feels like you're not getting enough air, like you're choking or drowning. But I'm not an expert.
  - KMag 4y ago
    I've accidentally passed out from breathing helium from a 10-foot weather balloon. It's not painful at all, actually slightly pleasant. A lack of oxygen absorption doesn't directly cause discomfort. Increased blood CO2 is the main cause of discomfort from holding your breath for a long time. This is why hyperventilating to bring your CO2 level down helps you hold your breath longer. (The light headedness from hyperventilation is a consequence of low CO2.) I don't believe cyanide particularly increases blood CO2 prior to loss of consciousness. Also, I'm told carbon monoxide poisoning isn't particularly uncomfortable, and also interferes with oxygen transport. So, your proposed mechanism seems unlikely.
    - KMag 4y ago
      Someone else here mentioned that cyanide poisoning is painful due to lactate production: that muscle burn from working out, but presumably worse, building until death. Other tissues besides muscles may also have lactate receptors; I'm not sure. If that's the case, your whole body may have that workout burn.