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No, taxes is the price I pay for bureaucrats and politicians to not starve. It's a kind of charity. All these services can be provided by businesses, and I can

by bilvar 4y ago

No, taxes is the price I pay for bureaucrats and politicians to not starve. It's a kind of charity. All these services can be provided by businesses, and I can pay for them on a per-need basis.

dmichulke 4y ago
I 100% agree with you, it's kind of the point that I'm trying to make above... Maybe I should have called it a price instead of the price.
andsoitis 4y ago
There are many many services that cannot be done by businesses. From the foundational regulatory framework and enforcement of laws that make substantial businesses possible in the first place, to more practical things like safety and security.
- bilvar 4y ago
  That these cannot be done by businesses is just an assertion, re-enforcing the status quo. "The Machinery of Freedom"[0] is a book describing how a lot of these could work. I'm not yet sold that they would, but I'm not outright discarding the ideas. [0]: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Machinery-Freedom-Guide-Radical-Capitalism/dp/1507785607 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Machinery-Freedom-Guide-Radical-Cap...
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    Oh I don’t disagree that there aren’t things that could rather be served by businesses. What I haven’t heard however are a couple of good examples (in a particular society) that are viable and would make a material positive dent, but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear some good ideas, especially in jurisdictions where a govt does a lot.
lm28469 4y ago
> No, taxes is the price I pay for bureaucrats and politicians to not starve. It's a kind of charity. I feel like most people, including you, have absolutely no idea of how their taxes are spent. Unless you live in an absolute corrupt shit hole you're dead wrong
- bilvar 4y ago
  No I have, but a lot of people - probably including you - take authorities and their budget committees at face-value when they report where they spend tax money.

by bilvar 4y ago

No, taxes is the price I pay for bureaucrats and politicians to not starve. It's a kind of charity. All these services can be provided by businesses, and I can pay for them on a per-need basis.

dmichulke 4y ago

I 100% agree with you, it's kind of the point that I'm trying to make above... Maybe I should have called it a price instead of the price.

andsoitis 4y ago

There are many many services that cannot be done by businesses. From the foundational regulatory framework and enforcement of laws that make substantial businesses possible in the first place, to more practical things like safety and security.

bilvar 4y ago
That these cannot be done by businesses is just an assertion, re-enforcing the status quo. "The Machinery of Freedom"[0] is a book describing how a lot of these could work. I'm not yet sold that they would, but I'm not outright discarding the ideas. [0]: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Machinery-Freedom-Guide-Radical-Capitalism/dp/1507785607 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Machinery-Freedom-Guide-Radical-Cap...
- andsoitis 4y ago
  Oh I don’t disagree that there aren’t things that could rather be served by businesses. What I haven’t heard however are a couple of good examples (in a particular society) that are viable and would make a material positive dent, but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear some good ideas, especially in jurisdictions where a govt does a lot.

lm28469 4y ago

> No, taxes is the price I pay for bureaucrats and politicians to not starve. It's a kind of charity. I feel like most people, including you, have absolutely no idea of how their taxes are spent. Unless you live in an absolute corrupt shit hole you're dead wrong

bilvar 4y ago
No I have, but a lot of people - probably including you - take authorities and their budget committees at face-value when they report where they spend tax money.