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Here's a hint to a further revelation for those who continue to pretend that the Twitter Files are a 'nothingburger'. Ian Miles Cheong : > So here’s a questio

by oska 4y ago

Here's a hint to a further revelation for those who continue to pretend that the Twitter Files are a 'nothingburger'. Ian Miles Cheong : > So here’s a question for @elonmusk and @bariweiss: were any political candidates — either in the US or elsewhere — subject to shadowbanning while they were running for office or seeking re-election? Elon : > Yes https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601123235755487233 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601123235755487233

cactusplant7374 4y ago
Political candidates can spread lies and hate. I don’t see why they shouldn’t be subjected to the same rules as everyone else. Musk feels the same way about Alex Jones — who was part of a civil and not criminal action. What he did was immoral but not illegal. I’m glad we have a system to address the harm he did but disappointed in Musk that he can’t apply the same standard beyond Jones.
nrki 4y ago
Come now, this could be verified with evidence. I'm sure these actions exist in a database and email trail. Musk could release the evidence himself, or use an actual journalistic process and have someone impartial review it. But there is none, and so he hides behind his disdain of "the MSM" and posts yes/no answers to leading questions that only serve to rile up his base.
- oska 4y ago
  Your comment seems to me to be full of bad faith. > use an actual journalistic process There is a journalistic process being followed - two established journalists have been given comprehensive access to internal files and are documenting what they have found, while putting their discoveries in context. Elon is also promising that these files will be released publicly for other journalists and the interested public to pore over at a later date. > this could be verified with evidence And who's saying it won't be? This was not Elon volunteering this information himself. This was simply him replying in the affirmative to a question put to him. (And no, it was not a 'leading question'.) > he hides behind his disdain > questions that only serve to rile up his base Not worth replying to these. Just quoting as examples of your bad faith.
  - philjohn 4y ago
    Handpicking journalists, and then laying down requirements for them to follow, vs something like the Panama papers where every news agency was granted access. Those things are not the same.
    - MockObject 4y ago
      The only requirement was that the story be broken on Twitter. Hardly the most chafing restriction a journalist has ever been subjected to.
      - philjohn 4y ago
        The only requirement we've been told ...
    - alexandre_m 4y ago
      Elon is smart, he's making all these news on Twitter to increase user engagement on his platform. I'm pretty sure he'll release this publicly à la "wikileak" to everyone after the exclusivity on Twitter has worn off.
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    >two established journalists have been given comprehensive access to internal files and are documenting what they have found, while putting their discoveries in context. Ahhh yes, posting tweets on Twitter is "putting their discoveries in context". Normally journalists provide context by writing in depth articles after they have formed all their thoughts.... and maybe even have it reviewed by an editor. >And who's saying it won't be? This was not Elon volunteering this information himself. This was simply him replying in the affirmative to a question put to him. (And no, it was not a 'leading question'.) Then say the name. If he knows it happened, then take the .5 second to type out 10 or more characters and name a name. OR say something like "Yes, I'll get a list shortly". But no, he gives a snide 'yes'. Which only furthers to rile up the mouth frothers. It's so immature.
    - 4y ago

by oska 4y ago

cactusplant7374 4y ago

Political candidates can spread lies and hate. I don’t see why they shouldn’t be subjected to the same rules as everyone else. Musk feels the same way about Alex Jones — who was part of a civil and not criminal action. What he did was immoral but not illegal. I’m glad we have a system to address the harm he did but disappointed in Musk that he can’t apply the same standard beyond Jones.

nrki 4y ago

Come now, this could be verified with evidence. I'm sure these actions exist in a database and email trail. Musk could release the evidence himself, or use an actual journalistic process and have someone impartial review it. But there is none, and so he hides behind his disdain of "the MSM" and posts yes/no answers to leading questions that only serve to rile up his base.

oska 4y ago
Your comment seems to me to be full of bad faith. > use an actual journalistic process There is a journalistic process being followed - two established journalists have been given comprehensive access to internal files and are documenting what they have found, while putting their discoveries in context. Elon is also promising that these files will be released publicly for other journalists and the interested public to pore over at a later date. > this could be verified with evidence And who's saying it won't be? This was not Elon volunteering this information himself. This was simply him replying in the affirmative to a question put to him. (And no, it was not a 'leading question'.) > he hides behind his disdain > questions that only serve to rile up his base Not worth replying to these. Just quoting as examples of your bad faith.
- philjohn 4y ago
  Handpicking journalists, and then laying down requirements for them to follow, vs something like the Panama papers where every news agency was granted access. Those things are not the same.
  - MockObject 4y ago
    The only requirement was that the story be broken on Twitter. Hardly the most chafing restriction a journalist has ever been subjected to.
    - philjohn 4y ago
      The only requirement we've been told ...
  - alexandre_m 4y ago
    Elon is smart, he's making all these news on Twitter to increase user engagement on his platform. I'm pretty sure he'll release this publicly à la "wikileak" to everyone after the exclusivity on Twitter has worn off.
- nickthegreek 4y ago
  >two established journalists have been given comprehensive access to internal files and are documenting what they have found, while putting their discoveries in context. Ahhh yes, posting tweets on Twitter is "putting their discoveries in context". Normally journalists provide context by writing in depth articles after they have formed all their thoughts.... and maybe even have it reviewed by an editor. >And who's saying it won't be? This was not Elon volunteering this information himself. This was simply him replying in the affirmative to a question put to him. (And no, it was not a 'leading question'.) Then say the name. If he knows it happened, then take the .5 second to type out 10 or more characters and name a name. OR say something like "Yes, I'll get a list shortly". But no, he gives a snide 'yes'. Which only furthers to rile up the mouth frothers. It's so immature.
  - 4y ago