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This is a lot of bad logic compressed into little text. We open with someone unnamed somewhere said foo, !foo ergo bar. This doesn't follow at all. They have gi

This is a lot of bad logic compressed into little text. We open with someone unnamed somewhere said foo, !foo ergo bar. This doesn't follow at all. They have given it there all under ideal conditions the best they could do was insufficient and no matter how many people they in theory induct it just goes downhill from here because scaling up their war machine meaningfully will take years they don't have. Giving twice as many people little pieces of paper declaring them combatants doesn't scale your war machine. Training them extensively while expanding the logistics underlying their ability to fight does. Nobody ought to think Russia will collapse in days but likewise nobody ought to look at present circumstances and believe that they can do this for several more years either. Meanwhile there is no reason to believe the pittance that is being given isn't sustainable for years. In fact its basically paying to wreck your enemy for pennies on the dollar. It's a fantastic deal and we can basically afford it forever. The people that would be setting the precedent don't do things like invade each others territories any longer. Its a standard they not only can afford to set its one that would benefit them. Please support your position that western support or Ukrainian manpower are anywhere near the end of their rope.

DocTomoe 4y ago
I think you are interpreting a lot into very few words. What I said is that a) We will have to pay more for neon gas regardless of who wins the conflict. b) Regardless of our Western propaganda, Russia is far from being defeated and has a good chance of perpetuating the conflict to a point when the West loses interest. This - an underdog starting a war against another country, which was supported by Western money (and eventually troops which - after expensive losses - folded) - has happened before, see Vietnam or Afghanistan. > Please support your position that western support or Ukrainian manpower are anywhere near the end of their rope. Don't just look at the situation in the overly-enthusiastic US, and ex-Warsaw-Pact member states. "Old Europe" currently experiences skyrocketing energy costs (in part created by now buying gas from the Americans, which make us pay significantly more than Russia ever did) while at the same time preparing for the coldest winter in years. When public opinion turns, democracies adapt, which may mean less support for a war we have no part in and which hurts us by association. Democracies which do not eventually bow to public opinion fail and become authoritarian, either by trying to protect themselves from the populus, or by the populus overthrowing the system and replacing it with a strongman. We've had our economic crash in the 2000s, we had our pandemic in the 2020s, we are experiencing the first stages of a war which we still may become an active part/battefield in. We all know what came after that the last time. No-one needs that. Fun fact: In Germany, we had a massive police action against a right-wing quasi-monarchist group trying to overthrow the government only last week, with several arrests, many of whom were former special forces and ex-generals. Of course, that only means the next group will be harder to detect. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes ... and right now, it rhymes a bit too perfectly for my tastes.

DocTomoe 4y ago

I think you are interpreting a lot into very few words. What I said is that a) We will have to pay more for neon gas regardless of who wins the conflict. b) Regardless of our Western propaganda, Russia is far from being defeated and has a good chance of perpetuating the conflict to a point when the West loses interest. This - an underdog starting a war against another country, which was supported by Western money (and eventually troops which - after expensive losses - folded) - has happened before, see Vietnam or Afghanistan. > Please support your position that western support or Ukrainian manpower are anywhere near the end of their rope. Don't just look at the situation in the overly-enthusiastic US, and ex-Warsaw-Pact member states. "Old Europe" currently experiences skyrocketing energy costs (in part created by now buying gas from the Americans, which make us pay significantly more than Russia ever did) while at the same time preparing for the coldest winter in years. When public opinion turns, democracies adapt, which may mean less support for a war we have no part in and which hurts us by association. Democracies which do not eventually bow to public opinion fail and become authoritarian, either by trying to protect themselves from the populus, or by the populus overthrowing the system and replacing it with a strongman. We've had our economic crash in the 2000s, we had our pandemic in the 2020s, we are experiencing the first stages of a war which we still may become an active part/battefield in. We all know what came after that the last time. No-one needs that. Fun fact: In Germany, we had a massive police action against a right-wing quasi-monarchist group trying to overthrow the government only last week, with several arrests, many of whom were former special forces and ex-generals. Of course, that only means the next group will be harder to detect. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes ... and right now, it rhymes a bit too perfectly for my tastes.