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Thanks, that's very nice... He is living in another city than mine (I was commuting) so I will likely not see him in person again. Plus, I'm leaving Turkey soon

by ced 18y ago

Thanks, that's very nice... He is living in another city than mine (I was commuting) so I will likely not see him in person again. Plus, I'm leaving Turkey soon for India, I'll spend 5-6 months over there. There will be plenty of opportunities I'm sure. I don't think just giving him money outright would be a smart move though. He's a teenager who smokes, and plays computer games (he said 1 lira/day, so 80 cents). I don't think there are many teenagers who could hold on to 500$ and budget their way out of the hole. Even giving it piece-meal would have me worried that it'll be wasted.

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comatose_kid 18y ago
Your concerns are valid - if it were to work, you'd have to parcel out the money daily (or just buy food for him). Since you're going to India, I'll take this opportunity to mention that the best way to support smart, underprivileged children in India is to donate to http://www.angiras.org http://www.angiras.org.
- netcan 18y ago
  Thanks for the link. They need an upgrade to their website. What they say they are about is pretty much exactly the type of thing I would like to support. But, I can't get enough information to either make a decision or actually donate from their one page site. I have been thinking that a 'Kiva for Education' could be a great idea. I'm sure there's something out there. If anyone has a link please share.
  - comatose_kid 18y ago
    Great point about the website - they need to be clearer about how much of the donation goes to administration. I'm sure there are other improvements possible as well. Please give me any feedback on what stopped you from donating, and I'll mention that the next time I see them (they're relatives of my wife). Heck, I should probably just redo the site for them.
    - netcan 18y ago
      Sure I'd be happy to. To support, One would need a way to: .. get more info/contact details/donation method (an email address?) ..understand what it is they want/need (in kind donations, ongoing support, one off donations, earmarked donations, full scholorships) To decide to support it would be useful to answer some basic questions. What Universities are being sponsored? What does the scholorship include? What are the general selection guidelines? What are the aims of the cause? etc. Heck, I should probably just redo the site for them. Don't leave them hanging. I've met a bunch of organisations that have had work 'donated' to them & then been abandoned. They are stuck with a site they can't get much use out of. Such a pity when the ability of charities to connect online with people has such potential. They sponsor engineering, CS & BA students? Why not get some help from them. Maybe see about setting them up with a good, easy to pass around CMS & let their students do it. (maybe offer to supervise) Let the BA guys apply to Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. for some advertising credits. *on a side note, the info they did give got me curious. They peaked in 2003. Why? What happened.
      - comatose_kid 18y ago
        Thanks so much for the excellent feedback. I've composed an email and sent it to them. I'll let you know how it goes. Oh, and I doubt I'd leave them hanging - they're family after all :)
eru 18y ago
And you should be very careful not to create perverse incentives.
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by ced 18y ago

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comatose_kid 18y ago

Your concerns are valid - if it were to work, you'd have to parcel out the money daily (or just buy food for him). Since you're going to India, I'll take this opportunity to mention that the best way to support smart, underprivileged children in India is to donate to http://www.angiras.org http://www.angiras.org.

netcan 18y ago
Thanks for the link. They need an upgrade to their website. What they say they are about is pretty much exactly the type of thing I would like to support. But, I can't get enough information to either make a decision or actually donate from their one page site. I have been thinking that a 'Kiva for Education' could be a great idea. I'm sure there's something out there. If anyone has a link please share.
- comatose_kid 18y ago
  Great point about the website - they need to be clearer about how much of the donation goes to administration. I'm sure there are other improvements possible as well. Please give me any feedback on what stopped you from donating, and I'll mention that the next time I see them (they're relatives of my wife). Heck, I should probably just redo the site for them.
  - netcan 18y ago
    Sure I'd be happy to. To support, One would need a way to: .. get more info/contact details/donation method (an email address?) ..understand what it is they want/need (in kind donations, ongoing support, one off donations, earmarked donations, full scholorships) To decide to support it would be useful to answer some basic questions. What Universities are being sponsored? What does the scholorship include? What are the general selection guidelines? What are the aims of the cause? etc. Heck, I should probably just redo the site for them. Don't leave them hanging. I've met a bunch of organisations that have had work 'donated' to them & then been abandoned. They are stuck with a site they can't get much use out of. Such a pity when the ability of charities to connect online with people has such potential. They sponsor engineering, CS & BA students? Why not get some help from them. Maybe see about setting them up with a good, easy to pass around CMS & let their students do it. (maybe offer to supervise) Let the BA guys apply to Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. for some advertising credits. *on a side note, the info they did give got me curious. They peaked in 2003. Why? What happened.
    - comatose_kid 18y ago
      Thanks so much for the excellent feedback. I've composed an email and sent it to them. I'll let you know how it goes. Oh, and I doubt I'd leave them hanging - they're family after all :)

eru 18y ago

And you should be very careful not to create perverse incentives.

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