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Not to mention the commenters here as well: "There's no evidence people and tweets are being suppressed" <Shows Evidence with receipts> "This is old news, no

Not to mention the commenters here as well: "There's no evidence people and tweets are being suppressed" <Shows Evidence with receipts> "This is old news, nothing new here." Is there a mailing list where these things are coordinated? I remember there was JournoList in the late 2000s, so is there a new one for internet commenters of a certain political persuasion? How do they get the talking points memo?

nkozyra 4y ago
> "There's no evidence people and tweets are being suppressed" Wait, where is this one? I'm sorry, but it doesn't take coordination to know that shadowbans exist. It's spoken openly on Twitter, there are tools to test accounts, etc. It's not surprising because it's open knowledge. No political persuasion necessary to be in the know here.
- aidenn0 4y ago
  I bet a large fraction of HN didn't know anything about Twitter's moderation; this is normal. I also bet a large fraction of HN did know.
  - nkozyra 4y ago
    > I bet a large fraction of HN didn't know anything about Twitter's moderation; this is normal. I also bet a large fraction of HN did know. I'm sure this is true. But the claim is that there's some politically-inclined motivation to it all.
- Epitom3 4y ago
  > Twitter denied that it does such things. In 2018, Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (then Head of Legal Policy and Trust) and Kayvon Beykpour (Head of Product) said: “We do not shadow ban.” They added: “And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.”
transcriptase 4y ago
- archagon 4y ago
  What are the political leanings of random Twitter employees...?
  - selwynii 4y ago
    A glance at political contributions of Twitter employees at 99.7% to one party gives you a very strong prior in what the political leaning of random Twitter employees to be.
aidenn0 4y ago
Are you sure those are the same people? It's not like HN is a hivemind...
MockObject 4y ago
The same coordination network which was used to agree that the first drop's response had to include "doing PR for the world's richest man", the same phrase magically repeated by a dozen establishment journalists.
ummonk 4y ago
The same thing happened with negative coverage of the tech industry by the mainstream media. Journalists kept acting like tech people were just being paranoid about the media. Then recently Yglesias casually tweeted that there was a topdown directive for negative coverage, and acted like it was no big deal and everyone should have known.

nkozyra 4y ago

> "There's no evidence people and tweets are being suppressed" Wait, where is this one? I'm sorry, but it doesn't take coordination to know that shadowbans exist. It's spoken openly on Twitter, there are tools to test accounts, etc. It's not surprising because it's open knowledge. No political persuasion necessary to be in the know here.

aidenn0 4y ago
I bet a large fraction of HN didn't know anything about Twitter's moderation; this is normal. I also bet a large fraction of HN did know.
- nkozyra 4y ago
  > I bet a large fraction of HN didn't know anything about Twitter's moderation; this is normal. I also bet a large fraction of HN did know. I'm sure this is true. But the claim is that there's some politically-inclined motivation to it all.
Epitom3 4y ago
> Twitter denied that it does such things. In 2018, Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (then Head of Legal Policy and Trust) and Kayvon Beykpour (Head of Product) said: “We do not shadow ban.” They added: “And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.”

transcriptase 4y ago

archagon 4y ago
What are the political leanings of random Twitter employees...?
- selwynii 4y ago
  A glance at political contributions of Twitter employees at 99.7% to one party gives you a very strong prior in what the political leaning of random Twitter employees to be.

aidenn0 4y ago

Are you sure those are the same people? It's not like HN is a hivemind...

MockObject 4y ago

The same coordination network which was used to agree that the first drop's response had to include "doing PR for the world's richest man", the same phrase magically repeated by a dozen establishment journalists.

ummonk 4y ago

The same thing happened with negative coverage of the tech industry by the mainstream media. Journalists kept acting like tech people were just being paranoid about the media. Then recently Yglesias casually tweeted that there was a topdown directive for negative coverage, and acted like it was no big deal and everyone should have known.