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Problem is that there is a reason shadow bans exist. It prevents nefarious actors from easily probing the limits of their content moderation processes. It rea
by threeseed 4y ago
Problem is that there is a reason shadow bans exist.
It prevents nefarious actors from easily probing the limits of their content moderation processes.
It really is funny how Musk is just taking Twitter back to the start.
- etchalon 4y agoHe'll end with the exact same practices, but with a different set of enemies.
- sigsergv 4y agoThe main issue here is not that shadowban exist but fact that twtter officials explicitly denied its existence.
- threeseed 4y ago> but fact that twtter officials explicitly denied its existence I haven't seen anything here that indicates that it ever did exist. Limiting reach is different from people not seeing your content at all.
- sigsergv 4y agoShadowban is not a total hiding content from everyone, it also implies selective hide[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
- charcircuit 4y agoIt's already easy to check to see if you or your post is shadowbanned.
- Khaine 4y agoI think the issue is not that this feature exists, but that it was abused to silence criticisms primarily from the right, while at the same time twitter denied this.
- djleni 4y agoIf it was done in secret how could you know it was abused to silence criticisms primarily from the right?
- Khaine 4y agoBecause people can see that their message that used to get x retweets and likes, is now only getting y which is far less. It is very common to see people complain about being shadow banned on twitter, and not knowing for what, or why.
- djleni 4y agoOkay, so that gets us to “it seems that my account has been shadowbanned.” Has someone compiled a dataset of users that appear to be shadowbanned, that tweet political content at least some of the time, as well as the political lean they have?
- godelski 4y ago> people can see that their message that used to get x retweets and likes, is now only getting y which is far less. If we go up to the top comment in this chain we see > Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter. - Elon Musk So... you're in agreement? (btw, this isn't shadowbanning. Shadow banning would be 0 likes and 0 retweets and 0 views) > t is very common to see people complain about being shadow banned on twitter, and not knowing for what, or why. Actually this is my entire complaint with these Twitter Files. They show examples of people getting delisted but do not show the tweets that led to these decisions. That is a CRITICAL element of the story. We can't determine if Twitter was acting in good faith or not without this knowledge. We also have no idea if these examples are selection biased or not. Probably since there's only right leaning stuff and thefp.com is a right wing organization. Maybe Twitter does have a left bias (it probably does) but we sure aren't getting a fair shake.
- r00fus 4y agoHe's going to speedrun learning moderation from "first principles". And we get to watch him learn (just like when he started banning people who changed their handle to mock him).