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The arrogance of this comment is astoundingly funny. > Firstly, the speed at which competitors are launching and developing new AI models. Imagen/Parti both se

by ipsum2 4y ago

The arrogance of this comment is astoundingly funny. > Firstly, the speed at which competitors are launching and developing new AI models. Imagen/Parti both seem to rival Stable Diffusion and DALL-E… why can’t we use them yet? Because Google doesn't want you to have access to them? Why do you feel like you're entitled to their internal research? Google releases papers on robots[0] as well. Do you expect them to ship you a free robotic arm? Or give you the ML model for it? 0: https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/12/talking-to-robots-in-real-time.html https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/12/talking-to-robots-in-real-...

Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
I'm not the user you replied to, but I have the same view as them. And it's not that we are entitled to anything, it's that they're losing the race, or at least the image race. For example, as an AI researcher, I can't consider Imagen/Parti to be the state of the art if all we have are cherry-picked examples and we can't verify anything. For all practical intents and purposes, they are just vaporware, and the state of the art are models like Stable Diffusion or DALL-E. Of course they are free to keep them that way, but they risk losing their reputation as AI/ML/NLP leaders.
- Delemono 4y ago
  They show what it can do, people in Google can use it,.there are papers. Google publishes plenty of other ml based papers. Assuming in any way that Google might loose it's reputation because of imagine is very very far fetched.
  - Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
    Not losing its reputation as a whole, but losing the reputation of being the leader in this field? Sure. When they released BERT there was no doubt that they were the leaders. Even laymen heard about it. What AI advances do laymen most talk about now? DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and ChatGPT. AlphaCode and LaMDA gave some headlines but not even close. Everyone is too busy trying ChatGPT to pay attention to those.
    - alphabetting 4y ago
      Does elite AI talent really care what layman new to AI think? If so, problem for Google but I doubt they do.

by ipsum2 4y ago

Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago

I'm not the user you replied to, but I have the same view as them. And it's not that we are entitled to anything, it's that they're losing the race, or at least the image race. For example, as an AI researcher, I can't consider Imagen/Parti to be the state of the art if all we have are cherry-picked examples and we can't verify anything. For all practical intents and purposes, they are just vaporware, and the state of the art are models like Stable Diffusion or DALL-E. Of course they are free to keep them that way, but they risk losing their reputation as AI/ML/NLP leaders.

Delemono 4y ago
They show what it can do, people in Google can use it,.there are papers. Google publishes plenty of other ml based papers. Assuming in any way that Google might loose it's reputation because of imagine is very very far fetched.
- Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
  Not losing its reputation as a whole, but losing the reputation of being the leader in this field? Sure. When they released BERT there was no doubt that they were the leaders. Even laymen heard about it. What AI advances do laymen most talk about now? DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and ChatGPT. AlphaCode and LaMDA gave some headlines but not even close. Everyone is too busy trying ChatGPT to pay attention to those.
  - alphabetting 4y ago
    Does elite AI talent really care what layman new to AI think? If so, problem for Google but I doubt they do.