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Braking the law doesn't mean doing anything wrong, and a lot of the people these people harass haven't even broken the law. These people infiltrate and destroy
by 9864250 4y ago
Braking the law doesn't mean doing anything wrong, and a lot of the people these people harass haven't even broken the law. These people infiltrate and destroy innocent people's lives.
Imagine meeting someone you love and having a child with them, just for them to disappear one day. Imagine finding out that they actually never existed and were actually a government agent who was assigned to infiltrate your life and possibly frame you for daring to speak against the state. Imagine being that child. Or anyone else in these peoples lives for that matter.
Or imagine finding yourself abandoned in a foreign country by your closest friends of several years who were actually government agents you met on a holiday you won in a fake competition created by the government, then find out that the company you worked for was also a fake company set up just to try to entrap you in some elaborate plan, so now you are unemployed, and everything you said in your own home or car in the last several years probably exists forever on a government server somewhere. Imagine then opening a newspaper and reading that the police claim to be underfunded...
Imaging what it does to a person to find out that their life for years has been a real life government conspiracy. That their friends, neighbours, co-workers, partner, etc. are not real and that they have had no privacy. It may not even be you they are after, but someone close to you.
These are both real cases, one from the UK where this cop is from and one from Sweden where I'm from, and they are far from unique.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/25/activist-deceived-relationship-met-police-officer-wins-compensation-kate-wilson https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/25/activist-dec...
https://www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nyheter/a/dwwdlO/polisen-anvande-honungsfalla-for-att-losa-helena-mordet?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-aftonbladet-se.translate.goog/nyheter/a/dwwdlO/p...
- asow92 4y agoYou don't think you're blowing this one instance out of proportion at all? This is just a one person who works at a hobby computer company.
- 9864250 4y agoMy objection is not really that they hired him. I believe that people can change and no one is irredeemable, but I don't think they should advertise it like this. It's like hiring an ex-con who used to use your product to victimize others and then bragging about it and getting upset when people are unconformable with it. If nothing else, I think they should show more respect for people who are victims of the police and state-sponsored surveillance.
- asow92 4y agoWhat are the fact about this guy? What work did he do that's so objectionable?
- 9864250 4y agoI don't know anything about him besides him having been a "Surveillance Officer" for 15 years. I feel the same about that as I feel about someone who has been a member of a crime gang or terrorist organization for that long. As long as the individual joined voluntarily and had the option to leave, I don't think it's unreasonable to judge them for the actions of the organization (or even organization type) without knowing what that individual specifically did.
- asow92 4y agoI don’t think we’re going to agree on this.