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Nothing. Every language once it grows beyond a certain point will it have its share of cooks. 1% of people are psychopaths. So in 10,000 people you have hundre
by Ygg2 4y ago
Nothing.
Every language once it grows beyond a certain point will it have its share of cooks. 1% of people are psychopaths. So in 10,000 people you have hundred psychos.
GP is right. In a memey, stereotype, sort of way. But, Rust community generally holds people evangelizing Rust by RIIR (rewrite it in Rust) in high disdain.
That said what C/C++ (and other memory unsafe lang) people can't seem to understand is that unlimited Undefined behavior is a trainwreck, and that Rust offers much, much more than just peace of mind regarding memory safety.
And no. Just write better code doesn't work.
It feels surreal. Like imagine you are driving a car with seatbelts and airbags. And everyone is saying. "Well I can just drive better and the belt is annoying. Doesn't allow me to get switch seats while driving.
And it won't help if you fall in river, so it's useless. Plus brakes make you go slower"
I decided that explaining and education is a lost cause. Let evolution sort them out.
- lenkite 4y agoThere is definitely secure software written in C/C++ though. See qmail http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html.
- hitekker 4y agoI like how this comment starts out claiming every language has zealots, then it says Rust disdains zealots, and then proceeds into Rust zealotry.
- Ygg2 4y agoSigh. First nice strawman. Guess you are also helping up your <favorite language/niche> toxicity numbers. Har, har. Second it's not Rust zealotry - maybe memory safety zealotry, but my reasons are well corroborated at this point (see Android safety issues with native code). Use any memory safe language (C#, Java, Ada...) that fits your needs. Just stop pretending memory unsafe languages have no issues, and that it's all programmer's fault, i.e. just code better/ don't make mistakes/ don't hold it wrong.