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Sam Bankman-Fried’s parents will not be teaching Stanford Law School next year

53 points by testfoobar 4y ago

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barbazoo 4y ago
> Barbara Fried is not listed as the instructor for any of the courses in her course catalog next year. She wrote that this was due to a “long-planned” decision to retire and has “nothing to do with anything else going on,” in a statement to The Daily. Fried is an emerita professor, which means she has no regular teaching duties but is free to teach classes in the future. Seems like she didn't plan on teaching anyway but that makes a great headline I guess. I, too, will not be teaching at Stanford next year, just FYI.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Why not, sounds like there's going to be a spot open
- microsoftdoes 4y ago
  You should be a little more skeptical. People don’t always tell the truth. And reasons for quitting is probably one of the most frequent lies people tell. Headline: Man arrested for robbery Him: I didn’t do it. You: Seems like he didn’t do it.
  - tdeck 4y ago
    The plan was "if my son becomes an international pariah I'll stop teaching".
    - zimpenfish 4y ago
      You missed the "...and buys us a multi-million dollar holiday home in the Bahamas" from that sentence, surely.
  - isitmadeofglass 4y ago
    > reasons for quitting A professor emeritus not decisions to take up courses is nothing like quitting. You don’t need to make up excuses for deciding to not take courses, it’s pretty much the default. Imagine that you retire from your job but tell your boss: “I know I’m retired, but Inwouldnt mind coming b once in a while just to say hey and catch up with people.” Would you then call it quitting or getting fired if suddenly you decided “actually I’ll not be stopping by next year”
    - FrontierPsych 4y ago
      I'm going to fix your comment for you: More like, “I know I’m retired, but I wouldn't mind coming in once in a while just to say "hey" and catch up with people.” Would you then call it quitting or getting fired if suddenly you decided “actually I’ll not be stopping by next year, BECAUSE MY SON IS CONVICTED OF THE LARGEST FRAUD IN HISTORY, AND I WAS THERE HELPING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT IT IS JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT I WON'T BE STOPPING BY ANYMORE.” Boss: Thinking "Phew, glad I didn't have to tell her not to show her face around here every again" but saying to her face, "Oh, ok...it's up to you, but I totally understand that the only reason that you are not coming by is because it is your own decision that has nothing to do with YOUR SON IS CONVICTED OF THE LARGEST FRAUD IN HISTORY, AND YOU WAS THERE HELPING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT IT IS JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT YOU WON'T BE STOPPING BY ANYMORE.”
    - microsoftdoes 4y ago
      If their son was revealed to have run a multibillion dollar scam with their help, maybe.
  - washadjeffmad 4y ago
    The irony is how easily influenced you were by the article's viewpoint. Does it not make sense that someone whose family is going through something like this would have a lot to deal with? Emeritus faculty are "retired" and electively teach classes for pay. They can't "quit" because they're not on contract and because they can't stop being emeritus. You were pulled in my the intrigue of the author's spin on the topic, as intended, but the reality is much more boring.
    - hitekker 4y ago
      The article’s “viewpoint” is backed up by facts. > Bankman-Fried’s parents became involved in the scandal when Reuters broke that the professors had been named owners of a $16.4 million vacation home purchased by FTX. His parents told Reuters that they are seeking to return the deed to FTX Very boring indeed /s
- faizmokhtar 4y ago
  It's like saying "I'm looking for new challenges" when asked why you're leaving your previous company.
  - Waterluvian 4y ago
    Or when an executive quits to “spend more time with their family.”
    - dkqmduems 4y ago
      In jail.
  - jjtheblunt 4y ago
    That does happen, though. I quit an awesome job in Apple engineering that i'd had for several years to work on cancer research, totally unrelated.
adam_arthur 4y ago
If the property purchase information is accurate, seems they should be in prison next year along with Sam
- twelve40 4y ago
  I thought so too at first, but then how do you separate actual comp (and, say, sale of secondaries) from theft? Like, how much is he allowed in legit bonuses and at which point it becomes too much, and how do they decide that? Because he could always just say I bought that place with a hard-earned bonus that year, and gifted it to my parents, who are of course even more clueless about those money things than I am.
  - water8 4y ago
  - greenyoda 4y ago
    > Because he could always just say I bought that place with a hard-earned bonus that year, and gifted it to my parents... Except that isn't what happened. Apparently, the house was bought by FTX, not by SBF. The article says: > Bankman-Fried’s parents became involved in the scandal when Reuters broke that the professors had been named owners of a $16.4 million vacation home purchased by FTX. His parents told Reuters that they are seeking to return the deed to FTX. If they thought the house was a legitimate gift from their son, why would they be trying to return it to FTX?
    - twelve40 4y ago
      well, they too could play dumb and claim complete ignorance up until the very point Reuters gave them an epiphany, but... yeah, I see what you're saying
- whydid 4y ago
  I doubt prison, but I'm sure they'll be busy defending Sam and themselves for a few years.
tartoran 4y ago
Not sure if they need to, it’s hard to trace back billions of dollars, they could keep some for a rainy day.. I’m still skeptical. Their politician friends will definitely help them out when things calm down.
tartoran 4y ago
Not sure if they need to, it’s hard to trace back billions of dollars, they could keep some for a rainy day.. I’m still skeptical there will be any serious justice, whether there’s real evidence on them. And at the end of the dat their politician friends will help them out when things calm down.
photochemsyn 4y ago
I don't imagine they'll be pitching a crypto exchange startup to new investors either, but that's probably not a newsworthy statement at this point.
sanjayio 4y ago
This seems like a good call considering their personal safety. I’m not in the position to empathize with someone who’s lost millions to a scam artist. I imagine few are unhappy and unstable.

53 points by testfoobar 4y ago

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> Barbara Fried is not listed as the instructor for any of the courses in her course catalog next year. She wrote that this was due to a “long-planned” decision to retire and has “nothing to do with anything else going on,” in a statement to The Daily. Fried is an emerita professor, which means she has no regular teaching duties but is free to teach classes in the future. Seems like she didn't plan on teaching anyway but that makes a great headline I guess. I, too, will not be teaching at Stanford next year, just FYI.

Apocryphon 4y ago
Why not, sounds like there's going to be a spot open
microsoftdoes 4y ago
You should be a little more skeptical. People don’t always tell the truth. And reasons for quitting is probably one of the most frequent lies people tell. Headline: Man arrested for robbery Him: I didn’t do it. You: Seems like he didn’t do it.
- tdeck 4y ago
  The plan was "if my son becomes an international pariah I'll stop teaching".
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    You missed the "...and buys us a multi-million dollar holiday home in the Bahamas" from that sentence, surely.
- isitmadeofglass 4y ago
  > reasons for quitting A professor emeritus not decisions to take up courses is nothing like quitting. You don’t need to make up excuses for deciding to not take courses, it’s pretty much the default. Imagine that you retire from your job but tell your boss: “I know I’m retired, but Inwouldnt mind coming b once in a while just to say hey and catch up with people.” Would you then call it quitting or getting fired if suddenly you decided “actually I’ll not be stopping by next year”
  - FrontierPsych 4y ago
    I'm going to fix your comment for you: More like, “I know I’m retired, but I wouldn't mind coming in once in a while just to say "hey" and catch up with people.” Would you then call it quitting or getting fired if suddenly you decided “actually I’ll not be stopping by next year, BECAUSE MY SON IS CONVICTED OF THE LARGEST FRAUD IN HISTORY, AND I WAS THERE HELPING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT IT IS JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT I WON'T BE STOPPING BY ANYMORE.” Boss: Thinking "Phew, glad I didn't have to tell her not to show her face around here every again" but saying to her face, "Oh, ok...it's up to you, but I totally understand that the only reason that you are not coming by is because it is your own decision that has nothing to do with YOUR SON IS CONVICTED OF THE LARGEST FRAUD IN HISTORY, AND YOU WAS THERE HELPING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT IT IS JUST COINCIDENTAL THAT YOU WON'T BE STOPPING BY ANYMORE.”
  - microsoftdoes 4y ago
    If their son was revealed to have run a multibillion dollar scam with their help, maybe.
- washadjeffmad 4y ago
  The irony is how easily influenced you were by the article's viewpoint. Does it not make sense that someone whose family is going through something like this would have a lot to deal with? Emeritus faculty are "retired" and electively teach classes for pay. They can't "quit" because they're not on contract and because they can't stop being emeritus. You were pulled in my the intrigue of the author's spin on the topic, as intended, but the reality is much more boring.
  - hitekker 4y ago
    The article’s “viewpoint” is backed up by facts. > Bankman-Fried’s parents became involved in the scandal when Reuters broke that the professors had been named owners of a $16.4 million vacation home purchased by FTX. His parents told Reuters that they are seeking to return the deed to FTX Very boring indeed /s
faizmokhtar 4y ago
It's like saying "I'm looking for new challenges" when asked why you're leaving your previous company.
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  Or when an executive quits to “spend more time with their family.”
  - dkqmduems 4y ago
    In jail.
- jjtheblunt 4y ago
  That does happen, though. I quit an awesome job in Apple engineering that i'd had for several years to work on cancer research, totally unrelated.

adam_arthur 4y ago

If the property purchase information is accurate, seems they should be in prison next year along with Sam

twelve40 4y ago
I thought so too at first, but then how do you separate actual comp (and, say, sale of secondaries) from theft? Like, how much is he allowed in legit bonuses and at which point it becomes too much, and how do they decide that? Because he could always just say I bought that place with a hard-earned bonus that year, and gifted it to my parents, who are of course even more clueless about those money things than I am.
- water8 4y ago
- greenyoda 4y ago
  > Because he could always just say I bought that place with a hard-earned bonus that year, and gifted it to my parents... Except that isn't what happened. Apparently, the house was bought by FTX, not by SBF. The article says: > Bankman-Fried’s parents became involved in the scandal when Reuters broke that the professors had been named owners of a $16.4 million vacation home purchased by FTX. His parents told Reuters that they are seeking to return the deed to FTX. If they thought the house was a legitimate gift from their son, why would they be trying to return it to FTX?
  - twelve40 4y ago
    well, they too could play dumb and claim complete ignorance up until the very point Reuters gave them an epiphany, but... yeah, I see what you're saying
whydid 4y ago
I doubt prison, but I'm sure they'll be busy defending Sam and themselves for a few years.

tartoran 4y ago

Not sure if they need to, it’s hard to trace back billions of dollars, they could keep some for a rainy day.. I’m still skeptical. Their politician friends will definitely help them out when things calm down.

tartoran 4y ago

Not sure if they need to, it’s hard to trace back billions of dollars, they could keep some for a rainy day.. I’m still skeptical there will be any serious justice, whether there’s real evidence on them. And at the end of the dat their politician friends will help them out when things calm down.

photochemsyn 4y ago

I don't imagine they'll be pitching a crypto exchange startup to new investors either, but that's probably not a newsworthy statement at this point.

sanjayio 4y ago

This seems like a good call considering their personal safety. I’m not in the position to empathize with someone who’s lost millions to a scam artist. I imagine few are unhappy and unstable.