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"Asbestos Cigarettes’ Related Diseases... Crocidolite asbestos in Kent Micronite cigarettes is known to cause the following diseases: Lung cancer, Mesothelioma,

"Asbestos Cigarettes’ Related Diseases... Crocidolite asbestos in Kent Micronite cigarettes is known to cause the following diseases: Lung cancer, Mesothelioma, Laryngeal cancer, Ovarian cancer, Asbestosis." Recent studies have linked asbestos exposure to an increased risk of ovarian cancer, particularly among people who used asbestos-contaminated talcum powder. However, if you're getting ovarian cancer from these cigarettes, chances are you're smoking them wrong.

quickthrower2 4y ago
Maybe the dangerous bit is when you stub them out. Turning bonded into fibrous airborne asbestos
- gerdesj 4y ago
  Obviously the wondrous collection of vapours as you smoke them is not implicated. You grab a fag and stuff it in your gob. Fire it up. Two inches or so soon disappears. The last inch lingers a bit until you get that slightly rubbery taste that indicates its over. You might continue anyway for a while - suck/savour (hot n nasty)/blow. Been there. For 30 years. Five years ex-smoker but some damage done and not too sure how much. Worrying about the effect of stubbing out on your own health is nonsense and ridiculous - who cares whether asbestos fibres are whole or dust after stuffing the bloody things in your gob? At that point you are endangering everyone in breathing range. Anyone who finds breathing normally a bit of a challenge sometimes or always will soon disabuse you of one or two ideas.
  - Zancarius 4y ago
    This is ultimately what killed my father: 45 years of smoking until one day in 2017 when he quit cold turkey and never picked up another cigarette. By that time the damage had been done. He had severe COPD. He was well passed the point of being a viable lung transplant candidate. He wouldn't survive the surgery. Besides, he already battled a litany of health issues stemming directly from smoking. Fast forward to last year. His ability to breath normally was already a distant memory, and his ability to breath in any capacity without a struggle had become the new normal. After an evening in the hospital, I picked him and Mum up before a quick detour to the medical supplier in town to pick up... oxygen cylinders and a concentrator. About four months later his condition had deteriorated enough that his GP suggested hospice. A year after this initial but rapid decline and he was gone. COPD is irreversible. It can be slowed, maybe even halted for a time, but it is impossible to reverse. I'm glad you quit. You may have quit early enough to maintain a normal life. Regardless, I'm proud of you for taking that important first step. For anyone else reading this who may be a smoker: Please, I implore you, consider quitting today. I know how the story ends. I've seen it first hand.
    - gerdesj 4y ago
      Cheers mate. I can still run and walk up steep slopes so all good so far. I'm 53. I am about in fair shape for my age. I feel your pain and I know I have pained my own family and friends too in the past and I am ashamed for that. Giving up the fags is hard, really hard but possible.
      - Zancarius 4y ago
        You're in good shape then! By the time my father quit, the most he could do was shuffle about. And you're absolutely right—it's hard to give up. I still remember the conversation he had with his pulmonologist. The doctor asked "So what made you choose to quit?" Dad said "I decided to. It was a conscious choice that I wasn't doing this any more." The doctor looked at him, smiled, and said "That's exactly right." I'd guess you went through the same process: It's a choice. False starts to quit are simply an exercise in kicking the can down the road. Actually quitting is a conscious, decisive effort. The only other people on the planet who know what it's like are those who have suffered addiction. The rest of us? We truly don't know what you have to go through when you quit.
        gerdesj 4y ago
        "The rest of us? We truly don't know what you have to go through when you quit." You have had to deal with the fallout and loss. My mum died from cancer when I was about 25. It was a female only variety - I forget the exact name. She had an initial onslaught which was diagnosed in reasonable time, an operation that she described as "quite unpleasant" and a course of radiotherapy. I should probably point out that "quite unpleasant" is a euphemism. ... remission ... all clear ... ... oh sorry its back ... palliative care. Funeral. Losing a parent early is horrible, even when you are nominally grown up. You should have at least 20-40 years as an adult with your parents, if only so they can ram the point home about what responsibility really looks like as you foist your ankle biters off on the oldies so you can get some respite. Sorry, we were discussing the fall out from addiction. Yes, it is horrific. Your dad gave up and that is quite an important thing. That shows he tried to do his best for himself and especially - his family. He was old enough and ugly enough to know exactly what was happening ... and he did his best, his very best: that I am sure of.
legitster 4y ago
The linkage with ovarian cancer is very suspect and makes little sense given the actual mechanism of how asbestos damages tissue.
- schappim 4y ago
  Exactly. Contaminated Talcum powder makes sense, filters not so much...
  - hedora 4y ago
    The talcum powder doesn't need to contain asbestos to cause ovarian cancer. It'll do it on its own. This has been known for a long time, but some of the talcum powder manufacturers are sitting on non-aesbestos-contaminated mines. To delay the inevitable bans (and to allow them to charge a premium), they heavily push the "aesbestos-contaminated talcum powder causes cancer" story. It is technically true, but intentionally misleading.

quickthrower2 4y ago

Maybe the dangerous bit is when you stub them out. Turning bonded into fibrous airborne asbestos

gerdesj 4y ago
Obviously the wondrous collection of vapours as you smoke them is not implicated. You grab a fag and stuff it in your gob. Fire it up. Two inches or so soon disappears. The last inch lingers a bit until you get that slightly rubbery taste that indicates its over. You might continue anyway for a while - suck/savour (hot n nasty)/blow. Been there. For 30 years. Five years ex-smoker but some damage done and not too sure how much. Worrying about the effect of stubbing out on your own health is nonsense and ridiculous - who cares whether asbestos fibres are whole or dust after stuffing the bloody things in your gob? At that point you are endangering everyone in breathing range. Anyone who finds breathing normally a bit of a challenge sometimes or always will soon disabuse you of one or two ideas.
- Zancarius 4y ago
  This is ultimately what killed my father: 45 years of smoking until one day in 2017 when he quit cold turkey and never picked up another cigarette. By that time the damage had been done. He had severe COPD. He was well passed the point of being a viable lung transplant candidate. He wouldn't survive the surgery. Besides, he already battled a litany of health issues stemming directly from smoking. Fast forward to last year. His ability to breath normally was already a distant memory, and his ability to breath in any capacity without a struggle had become the new normal. After an evening in the hospital, I picked him and Mum up before a quick detour to the medical supplier in town to pick up... oxygen cylinders and a concentrator. About four months later his condition had deteriorated enough that his GP suggested hospice. A year after this initial but rapid decline and he was gone. COPD is irreversible. It can be slowed, maybe even halted for a time, but it is impossible to reverse. I'm glad you quit. You may have quit early enough to maintain a normal life. Regardless, I'm proud of you for taking that important first step. For anyone else reading this who may be a smoker: Please, I implore you, consider quitting today. I know how the story ends. I've seen it first hand.
  - gerdesj 4y ago
    Cheers mate. I can still run and walk up steep slopes so all good so far. I'm 53. I am about in fair shape for my age. I feel your pain and I know I have pained my own family and friends too in the past and I am ashamed for that. Giving up the fags is hard, really hard but possible.
    - Zancarius 4y ago
      You're in good shape then! By the time my father quit, the most he could do was shuffle about. And you're absolutely right—it's hard to give up. I still remember the conversation he had with his pulmonologist. The doctor asked "So what made you choose to quit?" Dad said "I decided to. It was a conscious choice that I wasn't doing this any more." The doctor looked at him, smiled, and said "That's exactly right." I'd guess you went through the same process: It's a choice. False starts to quit are simply an exercise in kicking the can down the road. Actually quitting is a conscious, decisive effort. The only other people on the planet who know what it's like are those who have suffered addiction. The rest of us? We truly don't know what you have to go through when you quit.
      - gerdesj 4y ago
        "The rest of us? We truly don't know what you have to go through when you quit." You have had to deal with the fallout and loss. My mum died from cancer when I was about 25. It was a female only variety - I forget the exact name. She had an initial onslaught which was diagnosed in reasonable time, an operation that she described as "quite unpleasant" and a course of radiotherapy. I should probably point out that "quite unpleasant" is a euphemism. ... remission ... all clear ... ... oh sorry its back ... palliative care. Funeral. Losing a parent early is horrible, even when you are nominally grown up. You should have at least 20-40 years as an adult with your parents, if only so they can ram the point home about what responsibility really looks like as you foist your ankle biters off on the oldies so you can get some respite. Sorry, we were discussing the fall out from addiction. Yes, it is horrific. Your dad gave up and that is quite an important thing. That shows he tried to do his best for himself and especially - his family. He was old enough and ugly enough to know exactly what was happening ... and he did his best, his very best: that I am sure of.

legitster 4y ago

The linkage with ovarian cancer is very suspect and makes little sense given the actual mechanism of how asbestos damages tissue.

schappim 4y ago
Exactly. Contaminated Talcum powder makes sense, filters not so much...
- hedora 4y ago
  The talcum powder doesn't need to contain asbestos to cause ovarian cancer. It'll do it on its own. This has been known for a long time, but some of the talcum powder manufacturers are sitting on non-aesbestos-contaminated mines. To delay the inevitable bans (and to allow them to charge a premium), they heavily push the "aesbestos-contaminated talcum powder causes cancer" story. It is technically true, but intentionally misleading.