5 ms·

> Google said it planned to maintain Waze as a stand-alone service and didn’t plan to conduct any layoffs as part of the reorganization. Counterpoint - why wou

> Google said it planned to maintain Waze as a stand-alone service and didn’t plan to conduct any layoffs as part of the reorganization. Counterpoint - why would Google announce layoffs to the WSJ before it even happened? It’s possible that it’s in the works…

SpeedilyDamage 4y ago
You can't criticize a company for something they haven't done...
- shakow 4y ago
  But you can still remain suspicious, see what happens in the coming months, and make yourself an opinion at this point.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
    > make yourself an opinion at this point I suspect you mean, "at that point", talking about after "the coming months". If you do indeed mean today (at this point), then I'm actually curious why you think forming the opinion now isn't hasty.
    - shakow 4y ago
      I indeed meant ‶that″, I'm not a native speaker. The subtleties of this and that sort of elude me, just like these and those.
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
        That is very understandable, even many native speakers get the same sorts of things confused. Your comment just didn't seem so controversial as the lighter text suggested so I was hoping to clear that up. Thanks for confirming!
karamanolev 4y ago
They don't need to do a layoff to do a layoff. If you just set the (new) HC to 0 or significantly below replacement rate, you get reduction in staff just due to churn. When teams are sizeable, even with very low churn they lose employees over time. And then if you are more insidious, you can start introducing unpopular measures "in the name of business" that increase churn.
- jupp0r 4y ago
  This is much better than layoffs for employees.
  - chrisbaker98 4y ago
    Looking at the size of the severance packages that Meta, Stripe etc. have been giving in recent downsizings, I think I'd rather be laid off.
- kmonsen 4y ago
  That’s reducing costs, not layoffs. Words have meaning.
jjulius 4y ago
Totally down to eat my hat and join you if it happens. My pitchfork's looking quite lonely.
- bradlys 4y ago
  Look at Stadia. They were flying out developers and all kinds of things the day before it was cancelled.

SpeedilyDamage 4y ago

You can't criticize a company for something they haven't done...

shakow 4y ago
But you can still remain suspicious, see what happens in the coming months, and make yourself an opinion at this point.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
  > make yourself an opinion at this point I suspect you mean, "at that point", talking about after "the coming months". If you do indeed mean today (at this point), then I'm actually curious why you think forming the opinion now isn't hasty.
  - shakow 4y ago
    I indeed meant ‶that″, I'm not a native speaker. The subtleties of this and that sort of elude me, just like these and those.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
      That is very understandable, even many native speakers get the same sorts of things confused. Your comment just didn't seem so controversial as the lighter text suggested so I was hoping to clear that up. Thanks for confirming!

karamanolev 4y ago

They don't need to do a layoff to do a layoff. If you just set the (new) HC to 0 or significantly below replacement rate, you get reduction in staff just due to churn. When teams are sizeable, even with very low churn they lose employees over time. And then if you are more insidious, you can start introducing unpopular measures "in the name of business" that increase churn.

jupp0r 4y ago
This is much better than layoffs for employees.
- chrisbaker98 4y ago
  Looking at the size of the severance packages that Meta, Stripe etc. have been giving in recent downsizings, I think I'd rather be laid off.
kmonsen 4y ago
That’s reducing costs, not layoffs. Words have meaning.

jjulius 4y ago

Totally down to eat my hat and join you if it happens. My pitchfork's looking quite lonely.

bradlys 4y ago
Look at Stadia. They were flying out developers and all kinds of things the day before it was cancelled.