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Sounds terrible to me. I'd rather work at pre-acquisition waze, sounds like your work mattered and people weren't just droning along for money.

by ajkjk 4y ago

ghaff 4y ago
So get out as fast as you can reasonably can after your startup is acquired by a company like Google. Droning on for money sounds pretty good to a lot of people.
- ajkjk 4y ago
  It certainly meets more of the middle class mazlovian hierarchy than not having money would, but it's still pretty short of self-actualization.
  - gen220 4y ago
    People generally need to feel stable in the middle before reaching for self-actualization. For people who grew up on the lower half of the household income or wealth distribution, it takes many years of FAANG comp to feel stable there. It’s a big privilege to risk your career in the pursuit of self-actualization. Not in the sense that one should be ashamed of it, but in the sense that it’s prudent not to look down on people for declining to take it. The marginal $300k/year is worth significantly more impactful for most people than the expected returns of pursing of self-actualization-through-work. I think most people would rather have a secure income and seek self-actualization outside of work — in their family life or hobbies.
esturk 4y ago
So I take it that your current workplace, which is somewhere that you do prefer to work at, resembles pre-acquisition Waze? Or why else would you want to work there? And according to your bio is Dropbox? Well good thing you let the whole HN know that Dropbox is toxic to work at.
- ajkjk 4y ago
  No, my current workplace isn't much like where I'd like to work eventually. But it's fine for now. I'll eventually work somewhere smaller and less corporate. Dropbox is much like Google by the sound of it. Probably better, and would be worse if acquired by an even larger company, but who knows. But you're the one equating a bunch of stuff with toxicity, just keep in mind that that is not a universal equivalence, it's your opinion. (Although for the record I don't _completely_ agree with the guy. Obviously work-life balance is a good thing. But much of the other stuff resonates.)
shapefrog 4y ago
> people weren't just droning along for money Nahh they were pitching google to get the mega bucks so they could rest and vest on the roof.
- ajkjk 4y ago
  True.

Sounds terrible to me. I'd rather work at pre-acquisition waze, sounds like your work mattered and people weren't just droning along for money.

by ajkjk 4y ago

Sounds terrible to me. I'd rather work at pre-acquisition waze, sounds like your work mattered and people weren't just droning along for money.

ghaff 4y ago

So get out as fast as you can reasonably can after your startup is acquired by a company like Google. Droning on for money sounds pretty good to a lot of people.

ajkjk 4y ago
It certainly meets more of the middle class mazlovian hierarchy than not having money would, but it's still pretty short of self-actualization.
- gen220 4y ago
  People generally need to feel stable in the middle before reaching for self-actualization. For people who grew up on the lower half of the household income or wealth distribution, it takes many years of FAANG comp to feel stable there. It’s a big privilege to risk your career in the pursuit of self-actualization. Not in the sense that one should be ashamed of it, but in the sense that it’s prudent not to look down on people for declining to take it. The marginal $300k/year is worth significantly more impactful for most people than the expected returns of pursing of self-actualization-through-work. I think most people would rather have a secure income and seek self-actualization outside of work — in their family life or hobbies.

esturk 4y ago

So I take it that your current workplace, which is somewhere that you do prefer to work at, resembles pre-acquisition Waze? Or why else would you want to work there? And according to your bio is Dropbox? Well good thing you let the whole HN know that Dropbox is toxic to work at.

ajkjk 4y ago
No, my current workplace isn't much like where I'd like to work eventually. But it's fine for now. I'll eventually work somewhere smaller and less corporate. Dropbox is much like Google by the sound of it. Probably better, and would be worse if acquired by an even larger company, but who knows. But you're the one equating a bunch of stuff with toxicity, just keep in mind that that is not a universal equivalence, it's your opinion. (Although for the record I don't _completely_ agree with the guy. Obviously work-life balance is a good thing. But much of the other stuff resonates.)

shapefrog 4y ago

> people weren't just droning along for money Nahh they were pitching google to get the mega bucks so they could rest and vest on the roof.

ajkjk 4y ago
True.