Exactly, there's a huge appetite for products that allow Marketing, for example, to get things done without IT involvement; I'm not sure why people are surprise

Exactly, there's a huge appetite for products that allow Marketing, for example, to get things done without IT involvement; I'm not sure why people are surprised that other departments want to do the same. I think that low-code platforms can fill a need where they can help a team iterate on a solution without IT and get to a 80% solution that solves real problems, then bring in IT to help productize it rather than trying to start from scratch.