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Overwatch has had prominent open queue, arcade, and custom game options for a long time now, and with Overwatch 2 they've removed loot boxes.

a_t48 4y ago
Instead of lootboxes, we have $/time locked heroes. :(
- swagmoney1606 4y ago
  It's frankly pretty insane to me that heros are gated behind a paywall in a competitive game mode. Is this the first pay to win competitive game?
  - babypuncher 4y ago
    Hasn't League of Legends been doing this for over a decade?
    - blibble 4y ago
      LoL you pick your hero at the start Overwatch is all about swapping heroes during the game Blizzard even incentivised swapping heroes more in Overwatch 2 (30% ult charge retained, vs. 0 in Overwatch 1)
  - a_t48 4y ago
    Yeah I refuse to buy the battle pass on principle. I would have probably bought them if it were just cosmetics.
  - djtango 4y ago
    As someone who grew up paying £25-60 for a brand new game, I find it pretty insane that we've been trained to want games for free despite it costing millions to develop and run dedicated servers for millions of players. I tried out Overwatch 2, despite all the negative press it is fun and sweaty. I had plenty of fun despite not playing as Kiriko and I'm sure I could easily derive 10s if not 100s of hours before feeling a need to unlock Kiriko. If a game is taking so much of your time and you have a job, why isn't it ok to just pay a bit to unlock a hero? I'd take these kinds of monetisation over destiny 2 which didn't even have p2w or clash royale (before season pass)
    - swagmoney1606 4y ago
      I think the only real argument I have here is that in a competitive game mode, all heros should be available. It's just odd to think that a certain part of the meta is paywalled. It really messes with the sense of competitive integrity. Normally I'd be fine with a battlepass, but I refuse to pay activision any money out of principle.

a_t48 4y ago

Instead of lootboxes, we have $/time locked heroes. :(

swagmoney1606 4y ago
It's frankly pretty insane to me that heros are gated behind a paywall in a competitive game mode. Is this the first pay to win competitive game?
- babypuncher 4y ago
  Hasn't League of Legends been doing this for over a decade?
  - blibble 4y ago
    LoL you pick your hero at the start Overwatch is all about swapping heroes during the game Blizzard even incentivised swapping heroes more in Overwatch 2 (30% ult charge retained, vs. 0 in Overwatch 1)
- a_t48 4y ago
  Yeah I refuse to buy the battle pass on principle. I would have probably bought them if it were just cosmetics.
- djtango 4y ago
  As someone who grew up paying £25-60 for a brand new game, I find it pretty insane that we've been trained to want games for free despite it costing millions to develop and run dedicated servers for millions of players. I tried out Overwatch 2, despite all the negative press it is fun and sweaty. I had plenty of fun despite not playing as Kiriko and I'm sure I could easily derive 10s if not 100s of hours before feeling a need to unlock Kiriko. If a game is taking so much of your time and you have a job, why isn't it ok to just pay a bit to unlock a hero? I'd take these kinds of monetisation over destiny 2 which didn't even have p2w or clash royale (before season pass)
  - swagmoney1606 4y ago
    I think the only real argument I have here is that in a competitive game mode, all heros should be available. It's just odd to think that a certain part of the meta is paywalled. It really messes with the sense of competitive integrity. Normally I'd be fine with a battlepass, but I refuse to pay activision any money out of principle.