> I'm probably gonna have to stare at the sky for 4-5 hours, and what you consider real work is gonna maybe start happening tomorrow It may not be indicative o

> I'm probably gonna have to stare at the sky for 4-5 hours, and what you consider real work is gonna maybe start happening tomorrow It may not be indicative of the industry at large, but most engineers I know get away with this by changing the framing "I'm working on a doc" or "I'm scoping this feature" etc. Obviously this does not work with sufficiently bad management.