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Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really see where the problem is? Is he spying on competitors for them? Is he doing something unethical for the Raspi foundation

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really see where the problem is? Is he spying on competitors for them? Is he doing something unethical for the Raspi foundation? Im a little lost on why this is important.

mandmandam 4y ago
At heart, it might not be a big problem. But the optics aren't great. And the response to the criticism reads like Pi's social media person is trying to take them down from the inside. Being that toxic to fans and customers on social media is - I'll put this bluntly - stupid. It's unprofessional and very, very off-putting.
- danjoredd 4y ago
  Yeah I missed the comments until I saw the archive. For some reason they aren't loading on the actual Mastadon page. I agree, its pretty unprofessional of them. Never been a fan of the "edgy corporation social media" fad and I hope it dies soon.
  - hackish 4y ago
    It seems like the server may be feeling the effects of the HN front page but it was already down with only two comments. There was a new breed of ActivityPub-amplified DDoS attack a week or two back on other Mastodon instances, so perhaps we're seeing more of the same.
- pbronez 4y ago
  yeah the snarky responses aren't great. Maybe a better play would be to let the responses roll, then do a blog post discussing the use of technology in law enforcement. They let the haters get under their skin and provoke an aggressive response... take the bait and you lose.
- haunter 4y ago
  >And the response to the criticism "ACAB" is not a criticism tho and that's all I see
pbronez 4y ago
I agree. They hired a person who was a field tech for a police department focused on organized crime. That's perfectly respectable work that society needs. It's great place to get a lot of maker experience. I respect Raspberry Pi for standing by their employee, and the need for technical skills in law enforcement.
Arubis 4y ago
Most of the issue is RPi's utter failure to read the room.
- ShockedUnicorn 4y ago
  It seems to be common with "edgy" responses from corporate twitter accounts lately, I don't see the difference with this?
  - Tassels 4y ago
    They're treating their mastodon audience as if it's a twitter audience and failing to read the room. There's a lot more anti-cop folks on mastodon, so coming out right away with "We hired a policeman & it's going great" is probably not the best icebreaker. It's already gonna set folks on edge. Then the quote is about hiding covert video and audio surveillance, which is also something that's not gonna be well received by the audience on mastodon. They then doubled down in their responses to folks concerned with the toot. They started making edgy responses which simply shouldn't be how brands engage folks on mastodon. It's a different audience than twitter. Telling well-respected folks to unfollow and "chill" is unnecessarily combative, especially by saying condescending stuff like "bye bye now" and calling followers childish. If they would have framed it as hiring a former security officer and then detailing what he's doing with the Pi, they would have been fine. But they framed it in just about the worst way possible, then doubled down with troll-y replies.

mandmandam 4y ago

At heart, it might not be a big problem. But the optics aren't great. And the response to the criticism reads like Pi's social media person is trying to take them down from the inside. Being that toxic to fans and customers on social media is - I'll put this bluntly - stupid. It's unprofessional and very, very off-putting.

danjoredd 4y ago
Yeah I missed the comments until I saw the archive. For some reason they aren't loading on the actual Mastadon page. I agree, its pretty unprofessional of them. Never been a fan of the "edgy corporation social media" fad and I hope it dies soon.
- hackish 4y ago
  It seems like the server may be feeling the effects of the HN front page but it was already down with only two comments. There was a new breed of ActivityPub-amplified DDoS attack a week or two back on other Mastodon instances, so perhaps we're seeing more of the same.
pbronez 4y ago
yeah the snarky responses aren't great. Maybe a better play would be to let the responses roll, then do a blog post discussing the use of technology in law enforcement. They let the haters get under their skin and provoke an aggressive response... take the bait and you lose.
haunter 4y ago
>And the response to the criticism "ACAB" is not a criticism tho and that's all I see

pbronez 4y ago

I agree. They hired a person who was a field tech for a police department focused on organized crime. That's perfectly respectable work that society needs. It's great place to get a lot of maker experience. I respect Raspberry Pi for standing by their employee, and the need for technical skills in law enforcement.

Arubis 4y ago

Most of the issue is RPi's utter failure to read the room.

ShockedUnicorn 4y ago
It seems to be common with "edgy" responses from corporate twitter accounts lately, I don't see the difference with this?
- Tassels 4y ago
  They're treating their mastodon audience as if it's a twitter audience and failing to read the room. There's a lot more anti-cop folks on mastodon, so coming out right away with "We hired a policeman & it's going great" is probably not the best icebreaker. It's already gonna set folks on edge. Then the quote is about hiding covert video and audio surveillance, which is also something that's not gonna be well received by the audience on mastodon. They then doubled down in their responses to folks concerned with the toot. They started making edgy responses which simply shouldn't be how brands engage folks on mastodon. It's a different audience than twitter. Telling well-respected folks to unfollow and "chill" is unnecessarily combative, especially by saying condescending stuff like "bye bye now" and calling followers childish. If they would have framed it as hiring a former security officer and then detailing what he's doing with the Pi, they would have been fine. But they framed it in just about the worst way possible, then doubled down with troll-y replies.