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This is a very poor framing. The following things are both true: 1) Tesla's technical achievement with the degree of self driving they've already shown is very
by AtlasBarfed 4y ago
This is a very poor framing. The following things are both true:
1) Tesla's technical achievement with the degree of self driving they've already shown is very impressive
2) It absolutely is not ready for regulatory approval and production use.
Tesla's software is NOT a 100 foot pier. Is it 30% of the distance across the pacific ocean? Is it 80% but the last 20% is deep choppy waters? Who knows.
Videos of self-driving show the driver intervening about, what, less than 1% of the time? Or maybe 5% of the "decisions"? Now, the standard for autonomous driving is probably in the .0001% of the time, and a lot of that would be winter/weather related and good error handling (just stop the car or recognize an area is a difficult area and pre-warn the driver).
It is amazing how much a CEO doing annoying tweets morphs the objectivity of people on a site that is ostensibly about engineering and rational thought.
How many other companies have shown concept cars of EVs and "when we have self driving" cars with no steering wheels and people seated around a table in a car? Hell, look at this:
https://electrek.co/2022/11/28/stellantis-relaunches-lancia-electric-marque-teases-ev-design/ https://electrek.co/2022/11/28/stellantis-relaunches-lancia-...
It doesn't have wheels! It doesn't even appear to be touching the ground! And it's the lead image for one of the biggest foot-dragging idiots 15 years after the reality of a production EV trying to say "hey we'll be good at EVs now that literally every carmaker is way ahead of us" and also "please don't fire me as CEO".
THAT is a 100 foot pier.
You want fraud? The last 50 years of petroleum + ICE car companies in lockstep to ignore carbon emissions.
So what were Tesla people buying with "full self driving"? Parlor tricks to impress other people with, and nothing more. Was it oversold? Yeah, but so is everything else in marketing.
I would say full self driving was only slightly more oversold than the IoT smarthome (hey, you know all that stuff that lasts 30 years that you replaced with IoT stuff two years ago? Yeah we don't want to support the software anymore). Full Self Driving is LESS hyped that virtually all crypto.
A couple more steps past crypto, and you get to Theranos.
- foxyv 4y ago> Tesla's software is NOT a 100 foot pier. Is it 30% of the distance across the pacific ocean? Is it 80% but the last 20% is deep choppy waters? Who knows. With that uncertainty, we may instead be building a bridge to Mars. It's a problem that has never been solved and may never be. Selling something that may not even be possible to people is pretty ballsy. But not telling people the reality while selling them something that may not be possible? In any case, donate to my new kickstarter "Bridge to Mars." Our initial plan is to start with some stairs made out of ultra-light carbon fiber. Once we reach $200 we can fund our prototype: https://www.acehardware.com/departments/building-supplies/ladders/step-ladders/17990?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI09yw1-Dq-wIV5RXUAR2j4QNKEAQYASABEgIHEfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds https://www.acehardware.com/departments/building-supplies/la...
- addisonl 4y agoI must have missed Stellantis selling a 5-figure "full self-driving" option?