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There's a similar effect where you can describe a social program but frame it as a description of a replacement for that program and get Republicans (it's usual
by yamtaddle 4y ago
There's a similar effect where you can describe a social program but frame it as a description of a replacement for that program and get Republicans (it's usually Republicans in these, since they're the ones who tend to have some amount of dislike for most social programs) to say they'd support it, while also saying they hate the existing program. Or you can get them to say that such-and-such program should be eliminated because it's way too wasteful, then to agree the program would be great if you could enact reform to get waste down to X... where X is actually the measured waste in the existing program.
Relatedly, you can get voters to say they don't like a social program, but get them to agree they like all the individual things it actually does (usually, they don't really know what it does, they've just been told to dislike it).
- _dain_ 4y ago>to get waste down to X... where X is actually the measured waste in the existing program. that's called "lying".
- yamtaddle 4y agoAlso, "a study".
- _dain_ 4y agoyeah a study that can be summarized as: "when you lie to people, they believe you", which is not exactly groundbreaking.
- evilduck 4y agoAsking someone questions about the basis of their opinions without educating them in the process isn't lying to them. In this case, it discovers that their opinions are not fact-based, despite proclaiming to be so.
- _dain_ 4y agoif you say that such-and-such policy will "reduce" the level of X to Y, and it turns out it was actually Y in the first place, and you knew that, then you have lied. there is no two ways about this. it's an absurd gotcha. nobody has every statistic memorized.