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We were currently evaluating using GitPod in conjunction with our on-premise GitLab instance. This move by GitPod rugpulled the idea from us since we are handli

We were currently evaluating using GitPod in conjunction with our on-premise GitLab instance. This move by GitPod rugpulled the idea from us since we are handling national (non US) classified data and aren't allowed to upload that data or anything related to it to Cloud companies. Edit: Misunderstanding, we are only evaluating GitPod, we already have a on-premise Gitlab instance.

stevewatson301 4y ago
Does code-server[1] meet your needs? It's self hosted and has been meeting by (albeit) hobbyist needs well. [1] https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server
- blueflow 4y ago
  Personally i always opposed new projects like this, since we already have a big devops stack that is taking much manpower to operate and kept running reliably. So, yes, the rugpull is not in the interest of my company, but it is in my interest because i will have less operational responsibility.
- ghuntley 4y ago
  Maintainer of code-server here (:wave:). A couple days ago we did a recap of the ecosystem of code-server and how people are deploying code-server to support multiple users. See https://coder.com/blog/code-server-multiple-users https://coder.com/blog/code-server-multiple-users
nixgeek 4y ago
I assume GitHub Enterprise Server would also meet the requirements for being entirely on-premise and not uploading data to the clouds?
- blueflow 4y ago
  It does meet these requirements, by force. The network topology does not allow our on-premise instance to phone home.
ghuntley 4y ago
Have you considered Coder? We provision software development environments via Terraform on your own infrastructure for Linux, macOS, Windows, X86, ARM, and of course, Kubernetes. Our customers include financial institutions, asset management firms, hedge funds, US government agencies, professional services and outsourcing firms, retailers, insurers, software providers, and more who also confirm what you are saying. We are seeing a move to clouds but only when the cloud is under their control where infrastructure is locked down to meet regulatory and security requirements. One prospect we were speaking with recently signed a multi-year public cloud provider agreement, but shared it will take a couple years for their GitHub Enterprise solution to pass tech risk and information security reviews before developers can even access it... Over at https://coder.com/blog/how-our-development-team-shares-one-giant-bare-metal-machine https://coder.com/blog/how-our-development-team-shares-one-g... explains how we build Coder with Coder. If you got any questions lemme know. Our source code (AGPL) can be found at https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder ps. We are we creators and maintainers of `code-server` btw.
- mdaniel 4y ago
  > Our source code (MIT) can be found at https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder/blob/v0.13.1/LICENSE https://github.com/coder/coder/blob/v0.13.1/LICENSE > GNU AFFERO GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Is there some licensing subtlety that I'm not seeing?
  - ghuntley 4y ago
    No, you aren't wrong. I fucked up whilst multi-tasking (see seperate post below). Coder/Coder is AGPL. Coder/Code-Server is MIT. Doh. Thanks for the correction have updated the post. :)
dnsmichi 4y ago
GitLab team member here. Sorry to hear about your troubles. GitLab is working on adding remote development into the DevSecOps platform. I suggest reviewing the direction page [0] and implementation planning in the main epic [1] (with child epics and issues), and add your feedback and thoughts into the epic. (via the direction page in the 'how you can help' section [2]) [0] https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_development/ https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_deve... [1] https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/7419 https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/7419 [2] https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_development/#introduction-and-how-you-can-help https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_deve...
liushh 4y ago
Co-founder of Nimbus here (https://www.usenimbus.com/ https://www.usenimbus.com/) We also provide a remote dev environment solutions. I think in your use case is very special as you cannot leverage any cloud providers, which can potentially make it harder for you to integrate with certain solution. We are looking for design partners. If you like to share more and have a discussion, I am very happy to learn more about use cases and make Nimbus work for your on-prem infra.

stevewatson301 4y ago

Does code-server[1] meet your needs? It's self hosted and has been meeting by (albeit) hobbyist needs well. [1] https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server

blueflow 4y ago
Personally i always opposed new projects like this, since we already have a big devops stack that is taking much manpower to operate and kept running reliably. So, yes, the rugpull is not in the interest of my company, but it is in my interest because i will have less operational responsibility.
ghuntley 4y ago
Maintainer of code-server here (:wave:). A couple days ago we did a recap of the ecosystem of code-server and how people are deploying code-server to support multiple users. See https://coder.com/blog/code-server-multiple-users https://coder.com/blog/code-server-multiple-users

nixgeek 4y ago

I assume GitHub Enterprise Server would also meet the requirements for being entirely on-premise and not uploading data to the clouds?

blueflow 4y ago
It does meet these requirements, by force. The network topology does not allow our on-premise instance to phone home.

ghuntley 4y ago

Have you considered Coder? We provision software development environments via Terraform on your own infrastructure for Linux, macOS, Windows, X86, ARM, and of course, Kubernetes. Our customers include financial institutions, asset management firms, hedge funds, US government agencies, professional services and outsourcing firms, retailers, insurers, software providers, and more who also confirm what you are saying. We are seeing a move to clouds but only when the cloud is under their control where infrastructure is locked down to meet regulatory and security requirements. One prospect we were speaking with recently signed a multi-year public cloud provider agreement, but shared it will take a couple years for their GitHub Enterprise solution to pass tech risk and information security reviews before developers can even access it... Over at https://coder.com/blog/how-our-development-team-shares-one-giant-bare-metal-machine https://coder.com/blog/how-our-development-team-shares-one-g... explains how we build Coder with Coder. If you got any questions lemme know. Our source code (AGPL) can be found at https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder ps. We are we creators and maintainers of `code-server` btw.

mdaniel 4y ago
> Our source code (MIT) can be found at https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder https://github.com/coder/coder/blob/v0.13.1/LICENSE https://github.com/coder/coder/blob/v0.13.1/LICENSE > GNU AFFERO GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Is there some licensing subtlety that I'm not seeing?
- ghuntley 4y ago
  No, you aren't wrong. I fucked up whilst multi-tasking (see seperate post below). Coder/Coder is AGPL. Coder/Code-Server is MIT. Doh. Thanks for the correction have updated the post. :)

dnsmichi 4y ago

GitLab team member here. Sorry to hear about your troubles. GitLab is working on adding remote development into the DevSecOps platform. I suggest reviewing the direction page [0] and implementation planning in the main epic [1] (with child epics and issues), and add your feedback and thoughts into the epic. (via the direction page in the 'how you can help' section [2]) [0] https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_development/ https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_deve... [1] https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/7419 https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/7419 [2] https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_development/#introduction-and-how-you-can-help https://about.gitlab.com/direction/create/editor/remote_deve...

liushh 4y ago

Co-founder of Nimbus here (https://www.usenimbus.com/ https://www.usenimbus.com/) We also provide a remote dev environment solutions. I think in your use case is very special as you cannot leverage any cloud providers, which can potentially make it harder for you to integrate with certain solution. We are looking for design partners. If you like to share more and have a discussion, I am very happy to learn more about use cases and make Nimbus work for your on-prem infra.