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Given that you supplied ChatGPT with those names, which still have the very ordinary properties of rhyming with other words and denoting a particular person or

Given that you supplied ChatGPT with those names, which still have the very ordinary properties of rhyming with other words and denoting a particular person or being, that's not very interesting.

fenomas 4y ago
Constructing a novel, genuinely humorous poem that incorporates given inputs isn't very interesting because... I had to supply the inputs? Sorry, but I don't follow.
- 453qtgreq 4y ago
  Your original comment made a big deal of a poem-writer being able to incorporate unique words that you gave to it in the first place. No, that's not very interesting. Writing a "4-line humourous poem" is also trivial. I'm sure my four year old could manage it. Praising a machine learning algorithm for this, that took over 10,000 Exaflops to perform its training routine seriously demeans human ability.
  - fenomas 4y ago
    I didn't claim the poem was interesting, I gave it as an example of something which could not possibly have been regurgitated straight out of the training set, which it clearly was. Also: it was a 4-stanza poem, three rhyming couplets per stanza. It had a recognizable beginning/middle/end and a reasonably humorous punchline. The rhyme scheme was AABBCC - your four-year old will need to know that when they replicate the feat ;)
    - 453qtgreq 4y ago
      You're amazed because a training set, largely based on the contents of the internet since about 2011, is able to find words that rhyme with arbitrary word endings? 4 stanzas. My bad. Still not impressed.
      - fenomas 4y ago
        > You're amazed because [stuff nobody said]? Comments like this add nothing to the conversation, please consider not posting them.
        453qtgreq 4y ago
        >stuff nobody said >Given that the names were made-up and unique, and have zero hits on google You said it yourself. I just don't see the novelty that a machine learning algorithm, trained on huge amounts of stuff scraped off the internet, can find rhyming words. That aside, there's an enormous amount of poetry in the training set. Given the relatively strict constraints of the style, there's not much interesting about slotting in words that grammatically make sense.
        fenomas 4y ago
        What I said: that outputting a poem structured around having end rhymes for rhyme made-up words was an obvious counterexample to the claim that the system is just regurgitating its training data. What I did not say: that I was amazed because it rhymed arbitrary words. HTH.
        453qtgreq 4y ago
        >an obvious counterexample ChatGPT uses sub-word tokens. This is not a surprising outcome.

Given that you supplied ChatGPT with those names, which still have the very ordinary properties of rhyming with other words and denoting a particular person or being, that's not very interesting.

fenomas 4y ago

Constructing a novel, genuinely humorous poem that incorporates given inputs isn't very interesting because... I had to supply the inputs? Sorry, but I don't follow.

453qtgreq 4y ago
Your original comment made a big deal of a poem-writer being able to incorporate unique words that you gave to it in the first place. No, that's not very interesting. Writing a "4-line humourous poem" is also trivial. I'm sure my four year old could manage it. Praising a machine learning algorithm for this, that took over 10,000 Exaflops to perform its training routine seriously demeans human ability.
- fenomas 4y ago
  I didn't claim the poem was interesting, I gave it as an example of something which could not possibly have been regurgitated straight out of the training set, which it clearly was. Also: it was a 4-stanza poem, three rhyming couplets per stanza. It had a recognizable beginning/middle/end and a reasonably humorous punchline. The rhyme scheme was AABBCC - your four-year old will need to know that when they replicate the feat ;)
  - 453qtgreq 4y ago
    You're amazed because a training set, largely based on the contents of the internet since about 2011, is able to find words that rhyme with arbitrary word endings? 4 stanzas. My bad. Still not impressed.
    - fenomas 4y ago
      > You're amazed because [stuff nobody said]? Comments like this add nothing to the conversation, please consider not posting them.
      - 453qtgreq 4y ago
        >stuff nobody said >Given that the names were made-up and unique, and have zero hits on google You said it yourself. I just don't see the novelty that a machine learning algorithm, trained on huge amounts of stuff scraped off the internet, can find rhyming words. That aside, there's an enormous amount of poetry in the training set. Given the relatively strict constraints of the style, there's not much interesting about slotting in words that grammatically make sense.
        fenomas 4y ago
        What I said: that outputting a poem structured around having end rhymes for rhyme made-up words was an obvious counterexample to the claim that the system is just regurgitating its training data. What I did not say: that I was amazed because it rhymed arbitrary words. HTH.
        453qtgreq 4y ago
        >an obvious counterexample ChatGPT uses sub-word tokens. This is not a surprising outcome.