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In fact it would be interested to compare all sorts of toilets under this aspect. Perhaps there is one that is superior. On the other hand it's interesting not
by Tepix 4y ago
In fact it would be interested to compare all sorts of toilets under this aspect. Perhaps there is one that is superior.
On the other hand it's interesting not just to see water particles flying through the room but perhaps also where they are coming from. If you design a toilet that sucks everything out first (without a splash) and the rapidly replenishes the water (in a splashy fashion), the percentage of pathogens might be much lower.
- ygra 4y agoToilets on trains (at least in Germany) work that way. Presumably because it cuts down on the amount of water necessary to flush, but may have other benefits as well.
- chasil 4y ago...as do the facilities on commercial airplanes.
- eru 4y ago> In fact it would be interested to compare all sorts of toilets under this aspect. Perhaps there is one that is superior. You could also just close the lid before you flush?
- b112 4y agoLids must remain up always. For family peace, I removed the lid completely.
- adlpz 4y agoWhat? How's using the lid a controversial thing at all?
- sidlls 4y agoThe commenter is likely snarking about living with a female (or females). Some can be, er, particular about the toilet lid. (Yes, the solution here is to put the lid back up when done, but then that ruins a bit of the GP's (I think) intended humor.)
- nsxwolf 4y agoYou're thinking of the seat, not the lid. Although women are wrong about this. The standard should be a single seat manipulation per urinary event. That's the only fair way to do it. Why should the men manipulate the seat twice and women never?
- grahamplace 4y agoIf your goal is to minimize pathogens transferred from seat to hand, you can think of the man's second seat manipulation as "zero cost" in the sense that their hand is already contaminated and they'll need to wash thoroughly Man 2x, Woman 0x = 1 "contamination" cost incurred Man 1x, Woman 1x = 2 "contamination" cost incurred
- nsxwolf 4y agoThis is an interesting view. Like anything else it's important to establish what the goals actually are.
- itronitron 4y agoAgreed, lid goes down prior to each flush. Guys raise the seat if they are standing up, otherwise anyone else using the toilet just needs to raise and lower the lid.
- yamtaddle 4y agoYeah, this has long been my response to the stupid seat-up/seat-down controversy. Fine, lid's going down too. That way stuff can't get knocked or dropped in, and it reduces flush-spray, so it's better anyway.
- eru 4y agoWhy do you want an open air toilet? Just like rules are there to be followed, the lid is there to be closed. Ordnung muss sein.
- b112 4y agoYes rules must be adhered to, and removing the lid ensures compliance with correct rules.
- thesuitonym 4y agoYou can, but closing the lid doesn't seal anything.
- gnicholas 4y agoIf you put the lid down before you flush to protect yourself from all the dirtiness, doesn’t that mean the lid (which you have to touch to put up/down) is itself extremely dirty?
- JadeNB 4y ago> If you put the lid down before you flush to protect yourself from all the dirtiness, doesn’t that mean the lid (which you have to touch to put up/down) is itself extremely dirty? The parts of the lid that you touch to raise and lower it are probably relatively distant from the parts of the lid that would receive the brunt of any splashback.
- gnicholas 4y agoThe part I touch to lower is the top of the lid, so relatively distant. But the part I touch to raise is the underside of the lid, at the edge. While it might not be in the most direct line-of-fire, I would expect it would actually get a decent amount of particles because it is adjacent to an air gap, where pressure would escape. But I'm no aerodynamicist — just speculating!
- eru 4y agoWhy would you touch the underside of the lid to raise the it? You can't even reach the underside properly before you've opened the lid. In any case, just use a piece of toilet paper to touch the lid, if you are concerned.
- rascul 4y agoRemember to wash your hands.
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- Tepix 4y agoThere are no lids on squat toilets.
- simple10 4y agoIn the US, commercial toilets like the one tested do not have lids. Probably for ease of maintenance and (most likely) a misguided notion that not having a lid is more hygienic and easier to clean. These are toilets found in office buildings, shopping centers, airports, etc. Anybody know if commercial toilets in UK and EU tend to have lids?
- itronitron 4y agoNot sure about UK but EU at least tends to have fully enclosed stalls (no gaps above, below, or between the partitions) in public restrooms which should hopefully reduce aerosol spread.
- FastEatSlow 4y agoIn the UK we usually have lids, unless it's been vandalised.
- jkepler 4y agoIn France, I generally don't see lids on public toilets. In fact, its pretty common to see toilets without seats---vandalized or perhaps removed for maintenance, I'm not sure. (Maybe someone French has an idea why the seats are often missing/removed?)
- metadat 4y agoIt's actually cultural, lid and seat presence varies all over the world. Prepare to be amazed: Toilets of the World https://toilet-guru.com/ https://toilet-guru.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20505602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20505602 (2019; 266 points, 190 comments) For example, in some places this is normal and acceptable / desirable: https://toilet-guru.com/pictures/greece-kastraki-dscf1764.jpg https://toilet-guru.com/pictures/greece-kastraki-dscf1764.jp...