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No. Alma Linux is done by CloudLinux, and still uses their infrastructure, secure boot certificate, etc (according to their page at https://web.archive.org/web

No. Alma Linux is done by CloudLinux, and still uses their infrastructure, secure boot certificate, etc (according to their page at https://web.archive.org/web/20221208102246/https://wiki.almalinux.org/Transparency.html#assets-and-build-environment https://web.archive.org/web/20221208102246/https://wiki.alma...). They have never had anything to do with CentOS. Rocky Linux _is_ community oriented, and _is not_ beholden to a specific company, but it is not necessarily unpaid. The majority of the most active contributors to the project are being paid by their respective organizations (CIQ, OpenLogic / Perforce, etc) to do so.

Conan_Kudo 4y ago
AlmaLinux uses their own secure boot certificate, as noted in their last shim-review: https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/250 https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/250 EDIT: actually link to the right shim-review ^_^;
jonathanspw 4y ago
Most services are NOT on CL infra. There are a few minor things that need to be moved but all the core stuff is hosted on Alma's own infra including the build system/servers. Source: I'm the infra lead at Alma.
creatonez 4y ago
Should be noted that AlmaLinux is a registered non-profit, whereas RockyLinux has not done such a thing and has bylaws that leave open the opportunity of being bought out by a for-profit From RockyLinux: > The Foundation is here for the benefit of the public community. We are a self imposed not-for-profit organization[^1] and thus we will never be driven, motivated, or manipulated by profit or monetary gain. > [1]: This means the Foundation is a Delaware Public Benefit Corporation, with the objectives set forth in this Charter and the Foundation Bylaws. We do not have an objective to make money for shareholders. As of the time of this writing, the Foundation is NOT a 501(c)* US tax-exempt organization. Also, AlmaLinux has its own infrastructure. It's not using CloudLinux infrastructure.
rurban 4y ago
Cloudlinux was the cPanel partner who provided their CentOS updates and support. They (Igor) were the ones who kept CentOS alive previously. As nice as RockyLinux is, they can never compete with the dedicated support of the commercial partners from the hosting industry. See what they did: https://almalinux.org/blog/looking-back-leaping-forward-a-look-back-at-the-first-year-for-almalinux-and-what-the-future-holds/ https://almalinux.org/blog/looking-back-leaping-forward-a-lo...

Conan_Kudo 4y ago

AlmaLinux uses their own secure boot certificate, as noted in their last shim-review: https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/250 https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/250 EDIT: actually link to the right shim-review ^_^;

jonathanspw 4y ago

Most services are NOT on CL infra. There are a few minor things that need to be moved but all the core stuff is hosted on Alma's own infra including the build system/servers. Source: I'm the infra lead at Alma.

creatonez 4y ago

Should be noted that AlmaLinux is a registered non-profit, whereas RockyLinux has not done such a thing and has bylaws that leave open the opportunity of being bought out by a for-profit From RockyLinux: > The Foundation is here for the benefit of the public community. We are a self imposed not-for-profit organization[^1] and thus we will never be driven, motivated, or manipulated by profit or monetary gain. > [1]: This means the Foundation is a Delaware Public Benefit Corporation, with the objectives set forth in this Charter and the Foundation Bylaws. We do not have an objective to make money for shareholders. As of the time of this writing, the Foundation is NOT a 501(c)* US tax-exempt organization. Also, AlmaLinux has its own infrastructure. It's not using CloudLinux infrastructure.

rurban 4y ago

Cloudlinux was the cPanel partner who provided their CentOS updates and support. They (Igor) were the ones who kept CentOS alive previously. As nice as RockyLinux is, they can never compete with the dedicated support of the commercial partners from the hosting industry. See what they did: https://almalinux.org/blog/looking-back-leaping-forward-a-look-back-at-the-first-year-for-almalinux-and-what-the-future-holds/ https://almalinux.org/blog/looking-back-leaping-forward-a-lo...