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They have been saying most software devs will have no jobs soon since, at least as I have seen personally, since the 70s. AI, CASE, RAD, no-code etc. This time
by tluyben2 4y ago
They have been saying most software devs will have no jobs soon since, at least as I have seen personally, since the 70s. AI, CASE, RAD, no-code etc. This time is the first time that I feel it might actually happen.
On HN the level of engineering is very high and many people here note that the code chatgpt provides is often subtly wrong and, like this article states, it cannot generate code for many problems or it is hard to describe the issue in a natural language like that. The thing is; most programmers I see have all the same issues however they cost money and cannot work as fast and tirelessly.
As an experiment, if you need to do one, just pick a random cheaper (although I have seen more expensive doing exactly the same; problem is, the amount of 5 stars pushed the rate up but might not mean good or competent code) coder from upwork/fiverr and give them a simple project; something CRUD, in Laravel or node; something chatgpt will come up with no problem. And check the screenshots (upwork 'spies' on devs to see if they are working) of them trying to 'solve the issues'; most of them will be google/SO searches and trying to fix pasted code so it works.
Of course I cannot say that this is most programmers, however, in my experience of 20+ years hiring devs from upwork (which was elance and something else before it was called upwork), it is most programmers. They now, if smart, will use chatgpt; but so can you... Saving time and money.
Some of the big money making entrepreneural devs (usually marketers) I know don't understand code at all (their code is always very weird to read as they don't understand basic concepts), but are still coding and making good money providing solutions for their clients. Chatgpt is a dream come true for them: speeding up their work 1000x while everything else stays the same.
- pcthrowaway 4y ago> As an experiment, if you need to do one, just pick a random cheaper (although I have seen more expensive doing exactly the same; problem is, the amount of 5 stars pushed the rate up but might not mean good or competent code) coder from upwork/fiverr and give them a simple project; something CRUD, in Laravel or node; something chatgpt will come up with no problem. And check the screenshots (upwork 'spies' on devs to see if they are working) of them trying to 'solve the issues'; most of them will be google/SO searches and trying to fix pasted code so it works. This probably would only work if you had a sample of work from said devs from before the availability of GPT. If you hire someone to do a job ChatGPT can do now.. they're going to use it
- tluyben2 4y agoI am not so sure; I just hit up a bunch of my ex colleagues one by one, asking about chatgpt; they have 0 idea what i'm talking about. They (programmers), mostly said AI is for content. So yeah, they are not going to use it as they have no clue it exists. I told them now, but this will be the norm outside the twitter/hn bubble really. Also, when it starts costing money (which @sama said it will), they won't use it, just like they are not using copilot because it's 10$/mo.